Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Need Help On Grade And Condition! (1798 $10 Gold Capped Bust)

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 1,906Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list


Can you please post a picture of the full slab?

If it's authentic, looks like AU coin to me, but I am not an expert in early US gold!
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890

"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
15425 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
to the CCF

If authentic that is an impressive and valuable coin. Please post cropped and rotated images.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
56855 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list

Just wondering what company slab it is in?
John1
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
188342 Posts
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
United States
18663 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i rotated and cropped the photos. the coin is $5 not $10 as described. the only $10 1798 are both overdates of 1798/7

this is a large 8 and appears to be BD2 variety with that die break. with only 50-70 known the coin would be R5 if authentic. based on the value I would consider PCGS over NGC on this one as it would return a higher value

tough call due to all the surface issues. AU58 or MS62
my question would be if the coin was authentic why wasnt it sent to PCGS rather than a 3rd party grader as the coin, if MS, could be close to 6 figures. I'm suspicious of this one. if authentic the surfaces look like they may have been cleaned if it is authentic but the glare from these photos is not helping.

Need-Help-On-Grade-And-Condition!-1798-$10-Gold-Capped-Bust
Need-Help-On-Grade-And-Condition!-1798-$10-Gold-Capped-Bust

here is the BD-2 variety with the die break

Need-Help-On-Grade-And-Condition!-1798-$10-Gold-Capped-Bust
Edited by panzaldi
03/30/2023 07:35 am
Pillar of the Community
United States
2365 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
I'm in the AU-58 to MS-62 range as well. I would have to see this one in-hand to properly grade. Nice coin!

I'm curious what auction you acquired her? A local auction or a well known auction house such as Heritage?

Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
The surfaces look really off. That's why I'd like to see what "slab" this is in, because it has NGC-style thick prongs, but it's not NGC.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890

"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
Valued Member
United States
210 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jester to your friends list
I'm curious about this one as well. Others have much better educated opinions than me, but my Two Cents is it looks a little off, possibly from being cleaned. Without the provenance of how and where is was acquired, its hard to say if its authentic, even holdered. (depending who holdered it)
So for now, i'll just sit here and
Bedrock of the Community
United States
36744 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
AU details, cleaned.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1773 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list

Quote:
I'm curious about this one as well. Others have much better educated opinions than me, but my Two Cents is it looks a little off, possibly from being cleaned. Without the provenance of how and where is was acquired, its hard to say if its authentic, even holdered. (depending who holdered it)
So for now, i'll just sit here and


I agree, my first reaction was that it was not real. Something looks off
Valued Member
United States
378 Posts
 Posted 03/29/2023  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list
Looks like all the die cracks match up, both sides. Want to see the holder as well.
Pillar of the Community
United States
6384 Posts
 Posted 03/30/2023  02:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Looks real, but with the pebbly look of an ex-jewelry piece. I expect there is edge and/or rim damage consistent with a bezel mount.
AU details, and still a valuable coin in spite of the damage.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
United States
18663 Posts
 Posted 03/30/2023  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

Quote:
I expect there is edge and/or rim damage consistent with a bezel mount.


Jaobler - my eyes are not seeing any signs of this. what are you seeing? I would expect, due to its softness, that if it was then the rims would most definitely show signs

Pillar of the Community
United States
6384 Posts
 Posted 03/30/2023  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Panzaldi, I'm guessing based on the apparent ex-jewelry look of the surfaces, plus what looks like abrasions and distortion to sections of the denticles. The obverse rim at 9:00 stands out as a point of possible damage from a bezel.
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
United States
18663 Posts
 Posted 03/31/2023  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

Quote:
The obverse rim at 9:00 stands out as a point of possible damage from a bezel.


i see that. man you have good eyes. seeing the rims would probably verify this
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 18 / Views: 1,906Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to rattle this change. Forums