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@Slider, Just so that I can understand, am I correct to assume that the type 1 obverse paired with a type 2 reverse is genuine for the 1875 coins? So it would be an obvious fake if the obverse was a type 2. Would it also be an obvious fake if the reverse were a type 1 on the 1875 coins? Thanks for enlightening me!
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I'd say AU-53, nice and crusty.
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Quote: Just so that I can understand, am I correct to assume that the type 1 obverse paired with a type 2 reverse is genuine for the 1875 coins? So it would be an obvious fake if the obverse was a type 2. Would it also be an obvious fake if the reverse were a type 1 on the 1875 coins? Thanks for enlightening me! The type 1 obverse paired with a type 2 reverse is a die pair that was used on the 1875 Trade dollars. No known 1875 obverse type 2 exists, so a 1875 with a type 2 obverse would be a counterfeit. The 1875 reverse can be a type 1 or 2. There is no known Trade dollar for any date that has a type 2 obverse and a type 1 reverse, so this combination would be a counterfeit. There is a 1876 proof that has a type 2 hand (4 fingers) and a type 1 ribbon on the obverse. The coin has a type 2 reverse. Knowing the correct type 1 and type 2 die pairs is a good start on detecting counterfeit Trade dollars. The counterfeits are inconsistence with the eagle's neck feathers. The other area that the Trade dollar counterfeits are weak is the denticles.
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AU-50 with strong eye appeal.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think this is closer to 55, in my opinion, and quite presentable, great eye appeal
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@Slider, Thank you so much for the information. I added your wisdom to my notes! Congrats on a great coin with super eye appeal!
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AU-50 / 53. I would keep it in the ANACS soapbox. Folks like those old holders. Crossing to PCGS is expensive and then CAC is another $35+ shipping.
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i'd go AU50. maybe old cleaning and re-toned but it was a long time ago as the toning is already moving to the black. PCGS likes this kind of toning. Me...not so much
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Very nice! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Super nice example. I think it's undergraded a bit.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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After looking at the PCGS membership, True View photo, shipping, grading fees, and 1% crossover fees, and CAC has not accepted any regular submissions since Sept or 2022. The coin is going to stay in the ANACS holder. If the ebay seller would of had better photos, the coin would have cost at least another 4 or 5 hundred. If I did not get the AU50 ANACS, there was a NGC XF 40 1875 at Heritage that ends in three days, so I will be curious what the NGC coin hammers. My guess it will be in the same price range as my ANACS.
Edited by Slider23 05/13/2023 8:39 pm
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EF45 or AU 50 back when it was slabbed, today it might stretch to an AU53 or AU55 on a really good day for you at ANACS, maybe an AU50 at PCGS but likely an EF45 there.NGC? Haven't paid as much attention to them the past year, so I'm not up on their grading currently. A nice looking dollar for that date.
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I think she could get a AU-53
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