Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsCoin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Specializing in Modern Numismatics








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1955 S LWC W/Retained Cud

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 1,374Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
As mentioned, die chips will be raised areas where the die chip leaves a void on the die. Thus the raised areas where there should not be raised metal. Not a Cud issue. Die chips on wheat cents are very common on the Wheat cents as they used these dies way past the normal retirement. It would be like forcing people to keep working and seeing the accident rates and bodily hard rates on seniors. Thus these dies were continued to be used beyond, beyond normal usage. On the lower right wheat grains, it looks like a struck through debris issue is on that area. But not a really bog deal. (just an explanation of what we see there) Looks like it remained in place. But doubt if the weight was increased any that could be weighted. The die chips are common and note the flow lines onto the reverse rims, showing that that die also was aging when your coin was struck.
Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Coop, the issue here is not the die chips in the date and mintmark. They are markers that appear on the Cuds on coins attributions that I referred to in the opening statement. I suspect that you have not looked at those examples as well.
If you have a look at those examples, which are highlighting the right wheat ear and are still convinced that my example is just a worn die, ten perhaps you should contact Cuds on Coins and correct their interpretations as well.
Well it seems that most people do not bother to read opening statements for new replies. Just a quick look at the coin followed by an opinion. Often not even addressing the subject matter.
Advice is often put forth to do somework. I always do that before considering posting a coin. Looks like I am just wasting my time. I have received only one reply on this that even offered any possible reasonable explanation. Thank you Spence. I guess that is as far as I am going to get here.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Dowhat, that link you posted up above in the ()'s only refer back to a CCF page and only shows Cuds at the rim. not a Retained Cud from Cuds-on-coins. So now that I got my roofers up on my roof, I can go look at Cuds on coins and that unlinked reference you posted in your opening post.
Give me a few minutes.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Ok, It certainly appears to be the 05R But can it be a different Obverse die used?
On your coin there are small die cracks on the 9, 5, and smaller on the last 5. There is also one on the bottom loop of the S of the MM.

What I see on CoC are larger chips on the 55 on the stage 'A' and no chip on the 9.
on the stage 'B' a nice large chip on the 955,
also all the chips on the date don't have the same shape as yours either.

But on either one, I'm not seeing any chip on the MM, like yours.

I'm thinking a different die pair here.

And sorry for the delay - life happens to all of us.
Edited by Dearborn
05/22/2023 12:23 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Thanks for the input Dearborne. A different die pairing would explain it.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
So, if CoC already has a 05R in its logbooks, maybe you can submit your coin to them showing a different die pair. And it HAS to be a different pair because your chips are smaller than stage 'B' AND had a chip in the S.
Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Dearborn, great suggestion. But I have no idea how to meet their criteria for submitting images to COC. Mb and pixels and resolution means nothing to me. This coin is one year older than I am. I have no computer, no printer, only this smart phone I can barely navigate.
It will consume more of my time to fool around figuring it out while I could be searching more rolls. No way am I tech savvy but I know when I see something, thanks to information provided herein.
I would be glad to let someone else submit it just so I know I learned something. Anyone interested?
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I, myself have never submitted a coin before, so I'm out (besides, I'm just a teeny bit younger than you.)
Edited by Dearborn
05/22/2023 6:57 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
5640 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
I see many thingd going on Here. I saw the Lines, which I also suspect a Very Worn Broken or Breaking Die Used. Known Die States are an Excellent Pin point Accurate, Very Fascinating Topic Too....... Good Call John..... Best Wishes, Mike
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/22/2023  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Thanks Mike, the chips were one of the things that were bothering me - until I just stared at the OP's and CoC's...
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/23/2023  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
@Dowhat: Your emails are turned off and I cannot send you an email - can you please send me one so we can coordinate with sending in your coin? If you are having issues with your emails maybe you can get help from Bobby, or one of the Moderators.
Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts
 Posted 05/23/2023  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Dearborn, Cuds on Coins only accepts submissions through email (images). And they must meet their parameters to be accepted for consideration. I will tinker around with making them proper and see what happens. Thanks for the offer though.
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98220 Posts
 Posted 05/23/2023  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

Quote:
Dearborn, Cuds on Coins only accepts submissions through email (images). And they must meet their parameters to be accepted for consideration. I will tinker around with making them proper and see what happens. Thanks for the offer though.

Yes that is true, but we have someone to get the images and submit it in your name. -makecents- is willing to help you out with this process. I have been talking to him about this new submission, and he has experience with it.
Pillar of the Community
United States
2404 Posts
 Posted 05/23/2023  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobO411 to your friends list
. Nice Retained Cud. Great pictures.
Pillar of the Community
United States
877 Posts
 Posted 05/25/2023  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Dearborn, I think I unlocked my email. A very generous offer on both of your behaves. I would like to take you up on it. It will take me a month to figure out WTH a zip file is. I already missed a new SKH attribution submitted to you all here, because my submission couldn't be used.
Try and PM me. Thanks
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 1,374Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.44 seconds to rattle this change. Forums