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Forum Dad
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Not possible for several reasons: The nickel would not be round if struck in a dollar die. Half Dime planchet struck with a half dollar die, it's round and 100% legit. So almost not possible.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Half Dime planchet struck with a half dollar die, it's round and 100% legit. So almost not possible. Yes and then look at your picture and then his. The design flowed outward, there is no stop to the design until there is no more metal. His coin looks like it was cut almost, the design ends before the metal ends. You can also see that your example is not round. Where there is design (like the seal or feathers) there is metal outflow, where there is no design (blank space) no metal outflow. Edited by hfjacinto
07/18/2023 12:11 pm
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Forum Dad
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Yes and then look at your picture and then his. The design flowed outward, there is no stop to the design until there is no more metal. His coin looks like it was cut almost, the design ends before the metal ends. You missed my entire point, but as long as you put me in my place I guess. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I didn't put you in your place. You made a comment and honestly your picture nailed that his is a fake.
Look at your picture and his.
The one part that I don't agree with you is that you said the coin posted is round, well it's almost round. You can see the flow lines. Again a perfect example of why your picture is so valuable to cases like this, it shows the little things that counterfeiters miss.
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07/18/2023 12:54 pm
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Forum Dad
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well it's almost round. It's most certainly round enough that tons of people would say it couldn't be struck with a bigger die. I could post this on FB and 30 people would say it before the sun goes down. I was just trying to prove a point that round doesn't automatically mean fake. Same thing with reversed lettering and designs. 90% immediately say it must be fake, vise or glue job. I have people on Facebook that have blocked me because I correct people. Every. Single. Time. |
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I have people on Facebook that have blocked me because I correct people. Every. Single. Time. I would hope that the average coin intelligence is better here than on Facebook. Your picture was great, it really gave a useful insight into how errors like this look like. |
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I would hope that the average coin intelligence is better here than on Facebook. Fortunately, it usually is! |
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Can this thing be pried into 2 parts? I see a seam on the edge, And 2 small 'dimples' that look as if it was crimped. In addition, I see why hfjacinto says the design 'ends' before the end of the coin - It had a chamfer around the circumference.  Edited by Dearborn
07/18/2023 6:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Go to a local Gold and Silver dealer and see if they do a free XRF analysis with their fancy machine. First glance, I would say it is a counterfeit. The rough surface quality and paint-on tarnish appearance looks like the usual coin made in China.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Half Dime planchet struck with a half dollar die, it's round and 100% legit. So almost not possible. Could you share more information about this Half Dime? I would like to learn more. Regarding the round statement, I should have been more specific in stating that the OPs coin appears to have a distinct edge that you would expect from a coin struck in a collar. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Zurie, I forgot about that. That is a special case, not just a Half Dime planchet dropped into half dollar dies alone. |
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New Member
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Thanks everyone.
I've really enjoyed reading your replies, the general feeling being that the coin is counterfeit.
I still wanted to post the measurements from the digital calipers that arrived.
Diameter at various points across the coin
Mesurement 1 - 21.03mm
Mesurement 2 - 20.92mm
Mesurement 3 - 20.86mm
Thickness - 1.75 mm to 1.80mm
I'm going to upload some photos shot on a DSLR when I get a new memory card, as the post processing on the Google Pixel 7 isn't a great accuracy of what the coin looks like in person.
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Nice edge-views. Those can be difficult.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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