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Valued Member
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So who do I believe my nickel looks like the one they're saying it's an error?
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Pillar of the Community
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You believe who you want to believe.
I'm just offering my opinion. I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination.
By the way who is "they" who told you this is an error?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Not an error. The lettering--by design--is close to the rim to start with. Die Deterioration and circulation wear tends to 'merge' the lettering with the rim. In my several decades of searching of US coin rolls, I've dug through thousands and thousands of nickel rolls. I'd estimate that I've come across a few thousand nickels where lettering does merge with the rim. Too, even slight instances of misaligned die will blend the two features. Edited by ijn1944
09/08/2023 3:38 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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 Misaligned die |
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Excuse my ignorance you know we're still learning and yet I have to put a puzzle together and in time I'll figure it out I do appreciate your patience. Then they ask you simple question what should I just be looking for is there like a list of coins that I can just see and just look for them certain coins or stop looking at every coin for imperfections? TV
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Pillar of the Community
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Few things going on here. It's being caused by both circulation flattening, which is pressing the devices outwards towards the rim and also impacting the rim inwards towards the devices, and also Die Deterioration, which is causing the devices on the die itself to flow towards the rim. Also, minor misaligned die, causing it to be more pronounced around LIBERTY. None of these are errors, nor do they add any value to the coin. As for your question about what you should be looking for, the best way to learn in my experience is to read other posts on this forum and see which coins are deemed genuine errors and which are not by the experts here. Another good way is to read entries for common errors on error-ref.com Edited by SamCoin
09/08/2023 4:29 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I'm still learning also and this is a great place to learn. I don't stop looking. I look at each coin, but try to use what I learn here to make sense of what I'm looking at... If you find something you think is unusual or interesting, compare it with another coin of the same date and mint mark, then check the following post http://goccf.com/t/448257) for some very informative links, if you think you found something in the links and your research that points you towards a possible error or variety, post some images and try to explain what you see and where you found your information. That will help others to help you learn. I haven't posted anything new in a while because I have little free time lately and spend it sorting my coins by date and mint mark for future comparison and research. Good luck on your journey. Most of all, enjoy, have fun! Thanks for sharing. Edited by igwt79
09/08/2023 4:38 pm
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since die misalignment is not intentional, I consider the coins they produce to be errors, but very minor ones, and too commonly seen to carry a premium value unless the misalignment is significantly more than on your example
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You are on the right track if you are going to stop looking at every coin for imperfections, because almost all coins have imperfections and they almost always mean nothing. Study up on legit sites like varietyvista.com, doubleddie.com and error-ref.com. I don't know where you got the information on the nickel, but I'd stay away from there.
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Pillar of the Community
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@nick10 I would only consider major die misalignments to be errors, since no coin is going to have dies that are perfectly parallel to one another, just as no coin will be the exact weight it's intended to be to the perfect atomic mass. Where you draw that line is a bit more hazy with die alignment than with planchet weights, since the mint doesn't state their tolerances, but I personally only consider it to be an error if some of the design is actually missing from the coin as a result of the misalignment.
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I personally only consider it to be an error if some of the design is actually missing from the coin as a result of the misalignment. This aligns pretty well with the general advice we give that the letters have to have a least partly fallen off the edge for a MAD to add any numismatic value. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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a normal (slightly MAD) strike
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Pillar of the Community
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@SamCoin - no one can measure "atomic mass" by eye, or the slight differences you describe, whereas this coin has an obvious minting anomaly. It's a common one, however, so no added value, but I like that it gives novices a chance to find an error, and work their way up to errors of significance. I think Thump1 deserves a pat on the back for noticing it.
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I really appreciate the information you give me I have read and I've looked I guess you say I was getting anal looking for that diamond in the rough for my granddaughter. But I will post goofy looking cool things that I find that are just me looking
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I really appreciate the education that you're giving me on this I do look at other sites and I do when I have time to read up on it I guess you can say I was anal. But if you don't mind I come across a lot of cool looking coins with different poutines I'm going to post them cuz they're neat like I want I just post it tonight it wasn't Fountain fine I found it digging a hole changing Water Service it was Underground about 3 ft
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