Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1988 P Jefferson Nickel Die Clashes Or PMD, More Pronounced On Reverse?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 17 / Views: 1,053Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Pillar of the Community
United States
522 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shantiom to your friends list
Neither PMD or a Die Clash, but Die Deterioration
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
98217 Posts
Pillar of the Community
United States
575 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list
Pillar of the Community
United States
522 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shantiom to your friends list
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
6575 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Excellent die clash. Nice find!
Bedrock of the Community
United States
75078 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Agreed, a Die Clash and Die Deterioration.
Errers and Varietys.
Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Nice find for sure!
Pillar of the Community
United States
4135 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2023  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list
I like it, nice find.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
8812 Posts
 Posted 11/15/2023  05:22 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Wow! I stand corrected. Thanks, HGK3.
-makecents-
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
5797 Posts
 Posted 11/15/2023  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
That is some very severe Die Deterioration. I like it.

This nickel doesn't seem to be the same as the one in the link.
And the differences don't seem to be caused just by the severe Die Deterioration (because of the die state).

Very similar, but subtle differences.
-The area to the left of the dome
-The horizontal line at Jefferson's eye doesn't appear to be on this coin
-The horizontal line at the que (hair tie) is slightly higher on this coin.
-The line at the base of "FIVE"
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
Edited by Petespockets55
11/15/2023 09:56 am
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
189767 Posts
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
6575 Posts
 Posted 11/15/2023  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Pete, I can kind of see what you are arguing. For example, the reverse ribbon clash seems to connect with Monticello at a different place on the roof. However, the clash listing seems to be an earlier die state with defined steps and clean lettering. This example has a considerable amount of Die Deterioration melting, and that will definitely shift devices and surface features.

In order to really analyze it, I think we would need to take the clash listing and then age it as if all the features were suffering severe radial die flow, and then see where the features ended up.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
5797 Posts
 Posted 11/15/2023  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Typical clashes tend to be very similar.

I agree about the Die Deterioration changing the appearance of the die face, but the curved line at FIVE is what is the most convincing to these eyeballs that they are different clashes.

The answer probably lies with getting it attributed at Maddieclashes.com.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
United States
6575 Posts
 Posted 11/15/2023  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
It's a fair point. I don't personally know enough about die clashes to tease apart the subtle differences. I would do it by markers, but given the soft butter appearance of that die state, I rather think that the comparison markers would be deteriorated beyond matching.
Pillar of the Community
United States
522 Posts
 Posted 11/15/2023  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shantiom to your friends list
I am persuaded to send this in for attribution to MDC. Thanks all.
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 17 / Views: 1,053Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to rattle this change. Forums