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Is It Time The US Minted Bimetal Coins?

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 Posted 04/19/2009  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list
Wouldn't it be neat to have them make the bimetallic centers have silver content in them too?
These would be hoarded of course unless they absolutely replaced the paper money with them. Then we would be forced to use them in commerce when using cash.
It would increase the value of or dollar globally and help the economy. It would also make our paper currency collections more valuable and the modern coinage more collectible.
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 Posted 04/19/2009  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list

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We could even do a $2 or $5 coin--probably bimetal to thwart counterfeiting.


I'd say slightly larger than a Quarter, possibly aluminum to make it light for carry. Just a thought. The only thing is, I don't know anyone who has a pocket full of Sac's on a regular basis. Why would this be any different
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 Posted 04/19/2009  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
A few of our coins could use a downsizing, which probably explains why halves never saw much use (at least during my lifetime)
I cannot imagine ever using an Ike $1.
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 Posted 04/19/2009  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
Ike's, great collectible coins but in commerce, useless
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 Posted 04/19/2009  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list
I agree with DVCollector that if the $1 bills are not taken out of circulation there is no $1 coin that would ever be used much in commerce. I don't see what the big deal would be taking the bill out of circulation. Stop printing them and when they are deposited into banks they are never given back out but $1 coins are given out instead. Simple as that. Bye Bye Greenbacks.

P. S. As far as the material of the $1 coins I think the Sacs and Presidential dollars as they are would be more than fine enough. Maybe put in a dollars worth of silver for value. Just an idea.
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 Posted 04/19/2009  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim Archibald to your friends list

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We could even do a $2 or $5 coin--probably bimetal to thwart counterfeiting.

This hasn't helped in Canada which is now being plagued by counterfeit Twoonies. ~ Jim
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 Posted 04/19/2009  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list
Nope, if I had my way, we would have 50c notes, too.
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 Posted 04/19/2009  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list

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"I cannot imagine ever using an Ike $1."


The problem with the Ike is that coin was 38mm in diameter
like the old Silver Dollars, but didn't have the purchasing
power that the old Silver Dollars did. The Ike would have
to have been a $5 denomination in 1971 to have the same
purchasing power as a late 1800's Morgan dollar.

A 38mm circulating coin would now have to be $20 to have the
equivalent in purchasing power to the late 1800's Morgan.

BiMetal would allow a 90% silver core for such a coin (like
the 2005 Mexico 100-Peso Commmemorative business-strike
39mm coin with the 92.5% silver inner section).
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 Posted 04/20/2009  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list
It's a shame that all of our opinions mean absolutely nothing to the people who decide these things...

Many believe that the "attempts" of the Govt. putting out "Dollar coins" were steps to going that direction and eliminating the "paper Dollar" Federal Reserve Note ....F.R.N.
The Sacagawea isn't N.I.F.C. for the first time in a few years....combine that with the Presidental Dollars up and running despite the public's disinterest in their daily use. And with both programs scheduled for quite a few years yet in the future, they are "trying" hard to get these "out there" and accepted by the American people in everday commerce/transactions.
The Suzy B. looked too much like a quarter in color, shape, and size....so they made the new idea $1.00 coin "gold colored" and kept it at 26.5 mm, a little larger than a quarter....but STILL does not circulate !.....they just need to remove "the choice" and take the F.R.N. out of circulation.
So, I have a feeling that at the end of the Presidential dollar run and the end of the Sac. run, that this is roughly around when they will begin to "actually try" to announce the end of the $1.00 F.R.N.
Because at this time, there will be BILLIONS and BILLIONS of these Dollar coins sitting in banks and the Fed. Resv. waiting to be dispersed when the need is there. This transition will ensure their eventual use (they hope). Because when the choice is removed, and that's all you have are dollar coins and no F.R.N.'s......then there you go.
The $1.00 F.R.N. could be phased out of use rather quickly this way.
And all of these much hated Dollar coins that are sitting in BU condition everywhere by the Billions and Billions will then be circulated quite well.
Not sure if the Presidential Proof Sets will still ever be worth much even after this happens sometime after the year 2016, but as long as we have fun along the way right ?.....
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04/20/2009 09:11 am
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 Posted 04/20/2009  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list
I would love to see a bimetal coin from the US. I don't think it will help in repplacing the banknotes as the bimetal for sure will just go to collectors album.
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 Posted 04/20/2009  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list
I know I've seen something somewhere (I thought it was here) that there were some tests carried out by the mint on Bi-Metallic planchets that had an astronaut on one side. Apparently they worked out OK, but went to the golden dollars for some reason.
Until the 1 dollar note is withdrawn (and don't look for that to happen soon- the company that makes the paper is in Massachusetts, so there is some serious political pressure against discontinuing it)the $1 coin will continue to be a little used item.
The Bi Metallic coin would be a perfect $2 piece, preferably with Teddy Roosevelt on one side and a jolly big eagle on the other.
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With the current defecits we have, it seems crazy to keep printing paper money that only lasts 18 months, when coins would last for 25 or 30 years. I would like to see the math on how much could be saved with this!
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Do you think the U.S. should mint bimetal coins too?
Yes. At the very least the two dollar, and possibly a five dollar as well. Of course, it will only work if we quit printing the corresponding Federal Reserve Notes. A lesson still unlearned with the dollar coins.

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Nope, if I had my way, we would have 50c notes, too.
Only because you are the King of Note Collectors!
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 Posted 04/21/2009  03:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list

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Wouldn't it be neat to have them make the bimetallic centers have silver content in them too?
These would be hoarded of course unless they absolutely replaced the paper money with them. Then we would be forced to use them in commerce when using cash.
It would increase the value of or dollar globally and help the economy. It would also make our paper currency collections more valuable and the modern coinage more collectible.

Mexico tried that exact same thing, in the early 1990's, with circulating bimetallic 10 and 20 peso coins with sterling silver centres. Their motivation was twofold: to placate the powerful silver mining lobby, and to try to stabilize the plunging value of the peso.

In the latter case, it didn't work. As soon as the peso's value dropped to below the intrinsic value of the silver in the coin, they vanished from circulation; the silver cores were punched out and melted down. The experiment lasted all of four years (1992-1995); it was the last time anyone anywhere in the world tried to make circulating silver coins.
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Only because you are the King of Note Collectors


Please, no name calling here!


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With the current defecits we have, it seems crazy to keep printing paper money that only lasts 18 months, when coins would last for 25 or 30 years. I would like to see the math on how much could be saved with this!


Congress authorizes mintages (right?) but the Fed controls money supply through the treasury dept through the BEP (right?) so if we are to pull ourselves out of this deficit, nothing is better than to print enough paper to fill that hole.

On another note, we could have $100 base metal coins. If that happens, run and get some gold, oil and ammunition.

And as for Mexico, their inherent flaw was that the money itself was not strong, so no amount of silver in the world could have backed it (well, of course unless it was a commodity, not fiat currency). However, as the US Dollar is still strong, we may very well have the choice of minting bimetallic coins with a small bit ($5, perchance?) of silver.

In fact, as I've garnered from manilagalleiontrade, they have EUR12 coins that can be bought at face at the banks, although you have to be a special customer and it only has around EUR5 of silver. So sap, I guess that could be another "trial" of modern silver coins but surely enough no one spends them.

One more note as I've noticed, why does the copyright declaration at the bottom say 2005-2007? Should we get an update?
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