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2018 Shield Cent Defective Planchet (Rolling Induced Fissure, Ragged Clip, Or Fissure)

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 Posted 06/19/2024  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Love it. Congrats on a great pick.
Nice images of the copper plating before the missing metal and not damaged after the plating process.
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 Posted 06/19/2024  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tacc to your friends list
Very cool!!
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 Posted 06/19/2024  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
Sometimes you have to wade through the crap to find a good one. Nice one. I don't think I've seen a ragged planchet on a zinc before.
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I also find it funny this legitimate error sold for less than most of the PSD coins they were offering.
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 Posted 06/19/2024  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gorham_collector to your friends list

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. I also find it funny this legitimate error sold for less than most of the PSD coins they were offering.


I thought the same lol a real error coin and then PMD damage coin is hundreds. I wanted to do a best offer of 5 or 10 bucks lol but I didn't want it to get scooped up by someone else. So I got it for a decent price still.
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Congrats.... nice score, nice error!
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 Posted 06/20/2024  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halo1st to your friends list
Nice example as well as description on a copper plated zinc era cent. As strange as it might sound I remembered a past article from a great master, I did a google search for "Ken Potter" with the phrase " Blow Hole". Thanks, Doug.

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Nice example as well as description on a copper plated zinc era cent. As strange as it might sound I remembered a past article from a great master, I did a google search for "Ken Potter" with the phrase " Blow Hole". Thanks, Doug.

http://goccf.com/t/395759
Blow holes I think typically encompass the interior of the coin, not the edge. Refer to my link above.

Blow Hole link: https://www.error-ref.com/ragged-perforations/
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Blow holes I think typically encompass the interior of the coin, not the edge.

Why? The punch pattern should not deviate. It punches blanks start to finish in a set pattern. If the strip has a Blow Hole in it, it could fall / align up in the center or same on the edge. Thanks, Doug.
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 Posted 06/20/2024  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
It's a "ragged fissure". It marks where the zinc of the coin metal strip pulled apart from tensile stress.
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It's a "ragged fissure". It marks where the zinc of the coin metal strip pulled apart from tensile stress.


And on this coin, that "pulling apart" happened before the plating process, correct?
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Yes, the raw zinc strip pulled apart. The planchets are plated much later in the production process.
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 Posted 06/22/2024  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Thanks for the confirmation, Mike.

Also, do you know of any available resource for the modern Lincoln planchet production (before they are sent to the mint)?

Is the proto-rim added before or after the plating process?

Is the proto-rim still added by an upturning machine or might it be applied by striking the type 1 planchet with "forming dies"?

I've often wondered if zinc was too brittle to form with an upturning machine and if anyone knows how the problem of split plating seems to have been resolved. Split plating doesn't seem to be as prolific as it once was.
Maybe I should have sent these questions in an email, but I thought others might benefit from any insight you can share.
Thanks.
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The planchet is upset before plating in a conventional upsetting mill. This, and the plating, is all done by the outside contractor.
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