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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think you've eye-appealed it into a details/cleaned grade.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I prefer this coin after VerdiCare treatment,
whatever a 'details cleaned' comment may do to the value.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I prefer the original as well fwiw.
If only verdicare was used, the use of the q-tip was maybe too aggressive. The 'natural toning' is not intact as you said, some patina is clearly stripped away on the high points and in the field.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I agree with Frog, it now has a cleaned appearance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6394 Posts |
Lively discussion!
The pre-treatment coin has obvious light surface corrosion (euphemistically called environmental damage). No way it would have straight-graded. Like most posters, I think it looks better after treatment. Surfaces will also likely be protected from ongoing corrosion. Still a problem coin, but better eye appeal IMO.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I like it better after treatment, nice job. Very nice looking coin to add to your collection.
-makecents-
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1502 Posts |
After treatment is more visually appealing to me - details or not. I know you intend to keep but, at some point it will be sold. By your grandkids or down the line. And with that said, market acceptance is the real question and I propose the post VC coin will get more 'clicks' that the pre VC coin.
Better eye appeal with the addition of preventative maintenance - well done.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Dang, I'd like to know if this would straight-grade!
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Moderator
 United States
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Dang, I'd like to know if this would straight-grade! It would be nice to know. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I would love to know as well .
I will gladly bet the $14 spent to get ANACS
to slab it as straight grade , wouldn't fly .
The original crusty appearance WOULD straight
grade based on current standards .
In my professional opinion Verdicare details the piece .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can someone post a link to the differences (excluding the dates of course  ) between 1857 and 1856 obverses for those of us with limited knowledge? (Thanks in advance.) Very good and lively discussion with great perspectives. I'm with those that like the "new" look but agree with those that say it would have gotten a straight grade pre-VC and will get a "Details" grade post-VC. The "cameo" appearance that makes the details stand out is also what points to it not being original. The darker "shadows" around the letters and devices point to the original surface. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
Edited by Petespockets55
12/01/2024 09:20 am
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Valued Member
 United States
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OK...I will do my best to show the differences between the 1856 and 1857 Obverse.   So the first is the 1857 with 1856 Obverse and the second one is the standard 1857 Obverse. The reason the 1857 has an 1856 Obverse is that some dies were left over from 1856 and so they were imprinted with the 1857 date and used. Prior to 1909 the master dies did not contain a date, so it made it easy to date any good dies with the new date.  This photo displays the main difference between 1856 and 1857. The 1856 O is more squared and the F is more closed at the top. The O in the 1857 is more like an oval. The F is open at the top.   I included these two pictures since the right leg of the A in America is thinner for 1856 then 1857. Another attribute that I have noticed is that the AM in America for the 1856 is not connected as opposed to the connected AM for the 1857. Finally, the1856 M has a break at the top of the left side of the M as the vertical leg goes down at an angle.....it is subtle but all of my example have this attribute. The pictures are from Rick Snow's book. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Fantastic job of pointing out the differences.
Thank you so much.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Thanks indeed for this explanation.
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