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1986 P Dime With Extra Torch And Leaves?

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 Posted 10/06/2024  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
@ Marve65


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Well if you want to waste your time.


Not to mention the time of the Coin Shop Owner....I'm I right....
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 Posted 10/06/2024  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list

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Not to mention the time of the Coin Shop Owner....I'm I right

True - didn't think of the coin dealer
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 Posted 10/07/2024  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dough101 to your friends list
Another error of the 1986 Rosevelt dime; I found this online. Is there more out there of similar coins and mistakes?
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 Posted 10/07/2024  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uruman to your friends list
Just PMD "post mint damage" , also your last reply is PMD .
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 Posted 10/07/2024  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list
Unfortunately, these coins are not "errors".

Authentic error coins can often be confused with coins that have post-mint damage ( PMD). Such coins are damaged (gouged, scraped, etched, mutilated, flattened) after the final strike, (before or after leaving the mint) either accidentally or deliberately.

If the damage occurs at the mint after the minting process, for example in subsequent automated handling, it is still considered post-mint damage.

Corrosion, scratches, bending, dings, gouges, scrapes, etc... can, and often do, occur to coins in circulation and sometimes may be intentionally made to mimic mint-errors.
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 Posted 10/07/2024  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dough101 to your friends list
Found this coin online.
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 Posted 10/07/2024  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list
Yes, but that is way different than the coins for which you have provide photos. The first coin you posted appears to have been faked by squeezing two coins together in a vise. The second coin you posted is just scraped up, damaged, moved metal.

That coin that sold for $5,000 in 2022 does not show displaced, moved metal (damage), but rather one can clearly see the imprint of another coin. (Which, by the way, can also be faked, and would need to be certified by a TPG.)

For more info on the latest image you posted ($5,000 sold in 2022), it was certified by a Third Party Grading company ( TPG), specifically NGC.
The certified coin can be found on NGC's site:
https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/1816099-001/66/
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 Posted 10/07/2024  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dough101 to your friends list
Maybe I will send this coin to PSCG to physically see this coin; they are honest people. Scammers do wrong planchette?
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 Posted 10/07/2024  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add igwt79 to your friends list

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Scammers do wrong planchette?


Yes.
https://www.error-ref.com/counterfeit-dies/

Scammers do or try most everything.
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 Posted 10/07/2024  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list
It is a Hammer job which it is considered damaged coin, the flattening on the reverse is the clue to realize how this was done.
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Send it in to PCGS and post your results here, whether genuine error or not.

I wish you good luck.
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 Posted 10/07/2024  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list

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Maybe I will send this coin to PSCG to physically see this coin; they are honest people.

I think you should as it seems you don't believe any of the people on this forum!
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 Posted 10/08/2024  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list

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Maybe I will send this coin to PSCG to physically see this coin; they are honest people.

Ok, that's your prerogative, but just before you do that try this: get Two Dimes, put them on a flat surface ,put the reverse of one on top of the other with profile side up, get a hammer and go at it, then you can send that one to PCGS as well.
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 Posted 10/08/2024  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list
Dough, You have centuries of experience in these replies telling you it's damage. Every coin you came back with is damage also. Just because you see it on some other site [where they're in it for the money] doesn't make it true. Go ahead and send it in for your satisfaction. If it comes back as a real error, I will pay you double whatever it costs you to have it authenticated.
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 Posted 10/11/2024  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dough101 to your friends list
@chase007, that's good advice. I'll try some experimenting. I'll put two dimes together and smash them with a hammer. Lets see if they will mold each other. Since the metals are hard and dried. It is just my guess.
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