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1877 P Indian Head Cent : Opinions On Photos & Grade

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 Posted 05/22/2009  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
VG details, corroded
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 Posted 05/22/2009  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add algol to your friends list
In my opinion judging from the photos, I would say a solid G. My 6th edition ANA book states that 2-4 letters in 'Liberty' are necessary for VG. I cannot tell if there are letters in 'Liberty' from those pictures.
So G-6 is what I think.
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 Posted 05/24/2009  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hc8604 to your friends list
I also agree with G and also with corrision. I don't see any letters in LIBERTY.
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 Posted 05/24/2009  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
G- Corrision
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 Posted 05/26/2009  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
The astute forum members are correct. It has been graded G, as there are no letters showing in Liberty. But my pics are nice.
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 Posted 05/26/2009  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
G with corrosion and cleaning.
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 Posted 05/26/2009  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
What makes you think it was cleaned?
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 Posted 05/26/2009  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
"What makes you think it was cleaned?"

Just because some people always say that everything was cleaned.

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 Posted 05/26/2009  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list

Quote:
"What makes you think it was cleaned?"

Just because some people always say that everything was cleaned.


This coin has definitely not been cleaned.
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 Posted 05/30/2009  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
Congrats on owning one. I'm working on that set, but I'm not sure I'll acquire that one anytime soon!
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 Posted 06/01/2009  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list
I don't say there is cleaning on every coin I make an attempt to grade, in fact, I hardly ever say that. This coin on the obverse is redder in color on the letters and date and especailly portrait than in the field. This led me to think it has been lightly cleaned at some point. This is only my opinion and I may be wrong- may have to do with the lighting or flash, etc. The reverse looks more normal-looking though, so cleaning may have only been one side. If flash/lighting were same on each side, than the OBV coloring is most likely due to cleaning.

Even if it has been cleaned, to me it does not detract from the coin at all. It is a very nice piece. But I think if you send it in to PCGS, it will get a "Genuine" stamp with no grade.
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 Posted 06/01/2009  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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This coin on the obverse is redder in color on the letters and date and especailly portrait than in the field.


The "clean" areas are the high points...which is normal for a circulated coin that has *not* been cleaned, correct?
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06/01/2009 4:52 pm
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 Posted 06/01/2009  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
I am thinking the same thing Steve199 is thinking. It is worn more on those high points... wearing away the dark corrosion areas.

I wouldn't pay $825 for it due to the corrosion problem. Plus I would want a key date like that slabbed.

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 Posted 06/02/2009  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonysPics to your friends list
"Plus I would want a key date like that slabbed."


Slabbed coins command a premium price. Would you be willing to pay for the additional cost of having it slabbed?
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 Posted 06/02/2009  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfwusc to your friends list
If I was going to buy the coin, then I would require it be slabbed. I am not trying to put together that set so I don't want to purchase it. Why would you not get it slabbed since you are trying to sell it? You will get what you pay to get it slabbed back out of it, and maybe more? How does a buyer know it is Genuine? You might know it is Genuine, but they might not.

A coin dealer tried to sell me a 1916d Mercury dime for $900 that was likely F-12. It wasn't slabbed. Why in the world would someone sell a very popular key date so far below market value? Slabbed it would get around twice his asking price. Something wasn't right.

-SFWUSC
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