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So clash marks on coins can be raised? It is possible but very rare, they are called counter clashes. When an already clashed set of dies come into contact with each other again, it transfers the first clashing back on the original die. The second clashing is typically not as strong though, leaving a much more faint secondary of the devices. https://www.maddieclashes.com/type-...ter-clashes/-makecents-
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 I'll admit, I'm really reaching for an explanation here. This coin is interesting. Because of the "coin shortage," changeover from silver to clad, and all-hands-on-deck mass mintages, the 1964-dated production was the ideal place for overused dies, poor quality control, and random weirdness. Whatever caused this was either a one-time event affecting just this coin or was caught quickly. If it was a mass-produced event (like a DDO / DDR/RPM), IMHO we would have seen several of these in the last 60-ish years. |
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A tilted and sharper image.  "We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD." NYI |
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It is possible but very rare, they are called counter clashes. Thanks for the info  -makecents- |
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Quote:Thanks for the info -makecents- Sure, anytime. -makecents-
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After seeing the new photo, I'm interested in the SW-NE diagonal scrapes from the rim to LIBERTY. Those are clearly on the die and are too deep and directional to be die polishing marks. What are they?
This coin gets more interesting by the minute.
@NY Islander, your photos are fantastic!
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I would think it is a struck through debris perhaps metal scraps.
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Thanks Ft Collins. Agree with Chase007 - its a struck through debris, unless someone finds another one or comes up with something more plausible.
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Quote:The scrapes look to be the correct angle for Feeder Finger Damage. That would mean the obverse die would be the anvil die in the minting machine. Would that be a common practice in 1964? |
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...its a struck through debris, ... "Struck through debris" would leave an incuse impression of the item it was struck through. I'm not seeing an incuse impression on the coin. Unless I'm not seeing it properly, there are two raised parallel lines on the coin. IMHO, without more definitive visible elements, this should probably be chalked up to "Die Dent" as Coinhi mentioned. Personally, I like die "anomalies". The more extreme the better. It's hard to tell but the die anomaly under the bust may be angled the same direction as the lines at LIBERTY. So maybe that is another clue. Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups.
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11/08/2025 09:22 am
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The discoloration around the "LIBE" of LIBERTY, different discoloration through Lincoln's portrait, and the color on the raised metal make me ask another question. Could this simply be solder and the discoloration from a soldering iron?
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Looks like a die dent to me.
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I'm going with the die dent theory.
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