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2008-P New Mexico State Quarter - New DDR! 2008-P DDR-003 3r VIII Stage A Eds

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 Posted 09/08/2009  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
Chuckster125, I am not certain, However I do believe your coin exhibits the "clash marks" out side of the diagram, I mean see the fine "wave like " lines around the diagram and they even enter the diagram's perimeter.

This is just my observation and uncalled for opinion, either way, I wish you ALL the results you are seeking and personally, I am also looking to see "the experts opinions"...Mike
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 Posted 09/08/2009  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Hard to tell from your images where the mark is, but here is an overlay. I couldn't use the mint's images for this coin cause they are no longer posted. But I scanned one and colorized it to show where the devices could touch. See if this helps. There is a clash that could affect the reverse that crosses a reverse design. See if that connects?
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 Posted 09/08/2009  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Thanks Mike and coop- really appreciate all your help on this!

As far as this being a die clash, it very well could be, but then again maybe not, I don't know, thats why I sent the coin to Mr Wiles.

Thanks again for the support.
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 Posted 09/08/2009  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
On the reverse image of my coin, there is a strong line that would intersect the area in question.
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 Posted 09/08/2009  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
I don't see it coop?

I see an intersection to the right, but not on the left where this mark is on the coin unless more than likely I have no idea what the heck I'm looking at! (LOL)
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 Posted 09/08/2009  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The mark on your coin would show the continued line in this area.
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 Posted 09/08/2009  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
I see what you mean now coop!

Looks like it runs continuously but it seems to be more slanted and at a different angle from where the mark on my coin is located..

Again, maybe I'm looking at it all wrong.

Thanks for the help and as soon as I hear from Mr Wiles, I'll post the outcome.

Chuck.
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 Posted 09/08/2009  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
During die clashes the dies sometimes bounce making 1 and more lines on the die. They can also move in a different direction as well. So it appears to be a clash to me. Always good to get a second opinion.
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 Posted 09/08/2009  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
Coop, as usual, Thanks for ALL you do and very well at that, Be Well, Mike....
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 Posted 09/09/2009  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Well guys a thought hit me today. Die clashes don't rise as much as the mark on the Chuckster's coin. So I'm back to die gouge. It will be interesting to see what Mr. Wiles thinks.
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 Posted 09/10/2009  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
coop,morgansdad,russelhome :

Thanks for all your inputs!

The coin was verified as being delivered today to Mr Wiles, so now its just waiting to here from Mr Wiles as to what it is.

I'll post his answer asap.

Chuck.
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 Posted 09/10/2009  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Just to clear something up...again,

A die chip will be a piece that chips out of the die along the edge of a device in a weak point of the design. A mark in the middle of a field area is not going to be a die chip.

Additionally, die chips almost never have perfectly straight edges.

What you have here is either a die gouge or some form of die damage. It is not a clash mark. A clash mark would be far closer to the field in relief, and would have other marks around it. Clashes don't only affect one small part of the field and go that deep.
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 Posted 09/10/2009  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list
Thanks Chuck.
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 Posted 09/11/2009  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
I must say, when I am wrong, I am wrong.
I did not mean to give the apparent wrong advice, I thought I was correct, but, you see how wrong you can be!!
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 Posted 09/18/2009  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list

*Thanks for all the input on this!*

Chuck.
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