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the original post was questioning the coin WITHOUT any substantiation for it.
I'm really not sure how you can say that - if you re-read the original post (first post in the thread), you'll see I have cited the reference that I based this opinion on:
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my OPIONION is that its a counterfeit (based upon the Weege book, Münzfälschungen - WF179, pg120)
I think that is PLENTY enough to cite... I'm asking what other people think and get an honest appraisal without trying to plant the 'issues' that I see in their view. Whats the point of asking for OPINIONS if I just list what I see?
If I had done that, I probably would not have been drawn to denticles by Snowman's first post, as he would have looked at what I listed and just said 'Yep, I agree!'; so we're all the less for information and opinion.
What can after you raised the stink was nothing more than ME doing the work for You! You 'allude; to having read the Weege book, but you didnt turn to the page and item mentioned in the first post to have a look! So I had to post the reference I originally cited. You raising a stink did NOTHING to encourage digging - the digging had been done before my first post (again, hence the REFERENCE!)..
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some of you seem to take it personal and be offended by me taking a position..
You're right, some of us do take offence... Lets go through it;
i) you say this was
"without any justification" (hhbkiddo - Posted 12/08/2009 10:32 am), but you didnt even bother to check the reference I cited, or ask for scan of the reference cited - there was plenty of justification!
ii) you say
"BUT just to guess ... is absolutely unfair and does NOT serve any possible buyer or seller, UNLESS you have very solid reasons" (hhbkiddo - Posted 12/09/2009 11:33 am), again, see originally posted reference - there were solid reasons that were best described by pointing ppl to WF179...
iii) Then again
"could be a fake...... NO foundation for it..." (hhbkiddo - Posted Yesterday 12:24 am), again, see reference in first post - you could have quite easily asked for a scan if you didnt have your Weege on hand!
iv) next
"Perhaps fairness and objectivity is not what is wanted here."(hhbkiddo - Posted Yesterday 12:24 am) - I feel my conduct and objectivity is more than fair - my original post satisfies the Academic Integrity Standards that I use every day. Sure I could have used a more formal citation, citing not only the Book, WF# and Page, but also the publisher, year, edition, etc; but that serves no real purpose...
v) next was
"the original post was questioning the coin WITHOUT any substantiation for it."(hhbkiddo - Posted Yesterday 11:22 pm) - again, how many times do I need to point out the fact that I cited a reference? Did you not read or understand it? Or should I have writen an essay, provided all illustrations and had it peer-reviewed before simply asking if anyone else shared concerns for that coin (that was referenced)...
I find it interesting that I can cite a link to
ebay and you follow that; yet when I cite a reference to a book that you seem to have, you can't follow that. You can't have it both ways - a hyperlink reference is fine, where as a text reference to a book is not? Thats just LAZINESS! As I said, if you (or any other participant) could not get a hold of the cited reference, all you had to do was ask (like as happens in the real world - I've emailed researchers and asked if they could help me find copies of papers, books, journals they cited)!
But no; you created a 'stink' as you put it... The only reason the pictures came out was to show you what I REFERENCED IN THE FIRST POST (has that message gotten across yet? Or do other ppl just not get that
" (based upon the Weege book, Münzfälschungen - WF179, pg120)" is a reference?) as you seemed to be challenging the Academic Integrity of that post.
What you should have done was simply ask for help with the reference; instead you just slandered people, called them liars, unfair and unobjective all because you were too lazy to either look for the reference or ask!
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HOWEVER, in future, I will keep my trap shut...
Thats probably a good idea if you're not going to check references, politely ask for further info, or generally insult people!
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Posted 12/10/2009 1:32 pm
To me, this concept is simple. If you have a question, ask it. If you have a point to make, say it. The better the info, the better the response--no mystery there. 
