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Australian 5 Cent Die Changes And Coin Varieties

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 Posted 08/10/2019  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OoJasonoO to your friends list
Hi all,
I have a few questions I hope someone can help me with.
1. If the exact error coin is found over multiple years, is it considered to be a variety?
2. Relatating to different varieties, tiny, small, normal and large, high and low, 81 hair and 2001 irb. Is there any other varieties that I'm missing?
Mr T, 2019 from circ are tiny, I have checked a 1000 or so and that's all I've found so far, are all baby/mint set all nornal or both
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08/11/2019 05:38 am
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 Posted 08/10/2019  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OoJasonoO to your friends list
The little triangle on this 1966 5c claw(seems reasonably common), is it an error or die variety
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08/10/2019 08:01 am
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 Posted 08/11/2019  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list

Quote:
The little triangle on this 1966 5c claw(seems reasonably common), is it an error or die variety
Can't say I've ever seen this on a 1966 5c coin. Apart from a couple Obv Lams, the only 'error' I've come across for the 1966 coins follows.

(As I've labelled this one c2, I think I must have another one the same, but no other image at this point in time.)

5c 1966 Rev c2 Cuds on 5
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 Posted 08/12/2019  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list

Quote:

Hi all,
I have a few questions I hope someone can help me with.
1. If the exact error coin is found over multiple years, is it considered to be a variety?
2. Relatating to different varieties, tiny, small, normal and large, high and low, 81 hair and 2001 irb. Is there any other varieties that I'm missing?
Mr T, 2019 from circ are tiny, I have checked a 1000 or so and that's all I've found so far, are all baby/mint set all nornal or both


1. Not necessarily - the definition of variety depends on who you ask but generally if there is some sort of intentional design change then that is a variety e.g. small SD/large SD. Dollar coins of many years can be found with a lump behind the top kangaroo's ears (rabbit ear) but it's not a variety, it's due to die damage. The little triangle on the 1966 5c is likely an error,
2. I think that's all the varieties.

Thanks re the 2019 coins - I peeked in my bags and saw high echidnas and https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2019-5-...254300429071 seems to confirm that. I did get a low echidna which I believe is from a baby set.
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 Posted 08/12/2019  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OoJasonoO to your friends list
Thank you for your reply nevol and Mr T,
I checked my last noodle, 1 found 13 1966, 2 of them have faint but noticeable triangles(London mint), is it possible this is from a rotated clash ?
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Is there a variety in between normal and large.
Mr T can you please post image, couldn't access link
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08/12/2019 06:30 am
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 Posted 08/17/2019  02:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
My guess would be die clash but I haven't taken a close look to see what it would line up with. If not it may have just been damage to the die face caused by a small piece of metal or something.

I think the small and normal SD are the same - McDonald's lists them for many years but having looked I think it's down to die filling or doubling. Tiny SD is 2007 onwards, large SD is 1991 to 1994 and small/normal is most other years.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xXgA.../s-l1600.jpg
For some reason the forum stuffs up ebay Australia links.
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 Posted 09/14/2019  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
I've seen a couple of IRB 2019 5c pieces in circulation now - both high echidna.
And still no sign of low echinda 2017 or 2018 5c pieces in circulation or mint sets? I haven't seen any.
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 Posted 11/10/2019  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
2020 sets are out now - anyone got one to check?
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 Posted 06/29/2022  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hans g to your friends list
Hello everyone, after a short hiatus, I have been reviewing my 5cent die changes for the latter years, starting from 2007 when the 'tiny SD' (AKA High Echidna) was introduced.
I have the following:
2007-2016 IRB ......all years with both small and tiny SD. In most cases the small SD has come from a mint set, usually the baby set.
2016Changeover - 2018......tiny SD only
2019 IRB.......small and tiny SD
2109JC.....tiny SD
2020-2021.....tiny SD
2022....Small SD. I have only seen 1 2022 coin purchased from a mint set. I assume the circulating ones will be tiny SD.

I am interested to hear if anyone has come across 2017-2018 and 2020-2021 small SD.
Cheers, Hans

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 Posted 07/22/2022  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
Hey Hans, I've looked at hundreds of 5c pieces from 2016 to 2021 and have only seen tiny SDs, and my one 2022 mint set is a tiny SD too.
Is the 2022 small SD yours? I'll have to keep my eyes out anyway - the die that just won't die clearly!
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 Posted 07/22/2022  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brissyboy to your friends list
Hello all, I'm afraid I have not been able to check coins especially the 5 cent for a while now. Lost my very good magnifying lens. With few to no coin shops now left in Brisbane, I'll have to look around for a replacement online.

From a history point, RAM seems to have a reserve of dies and every now and then they pull one out that was the standard some years earlier. These tend to be the dies used for Mint Set or Proof Set coins rather than for Circulating coins. Not always the case but most of the time.

I'm pleased to see there is still interest in our humble 5 cent and it's varieties and errors. Keep up the good work all.
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 Posted 07/24/2022  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hans g to your friends list
Hello Mr T. Yes, the 2022 Small SD is mine. I now have one of each type. Interestingly the SDs aren't much different in size, but the echidna is in the low position for what I refer to as the 'Small SD / Low Echidna'. I think the Tiny SD size is a bit larger on recent years compared to earlier years, but I haven't photographed them to be certain.
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 Posted 07/25/2022  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list
What a nice focused collecting sub-area...

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 Posted 07/30/2022  01:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
Interesting hans - does the echidna position on the tiny SD look the same?
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 Posted 02/23/2023  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Allcoinage to your friends list
The rare 1987 Australian 5 cent is it a high or low sd because I may have both but I will need too find out which one is rare. Well I looked on internet it says high is the rare one.
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