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No worries.
I told him to mail it back to me, and I will refund his cash.
(That's what I would want someone to do for me).
(I'm just hoping I get the same coin back...That's what makes me concerned...)
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No worries.
I told him to mail it back to me, and I will refund his cash.
(That's what I would want someone to do for me).
(I'm just hoping I get the same coin back...That's what makes me concerned...) Sorry to hear that, hope it looks ok when you get it back! |
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To be honest. I think you had some opinions, but did not seem to give them any thought. I know that not many here care for my opinion but look at some of the others. Quotes from this post- echizento Maybe it's just my eyes but I see what looks like a very weak mint mark under the first 2. big777bill It looks like a very weak D, but who knows for sure. Definitely get it attributed. SDcoinguy but how would someone pay that much for a coin that we aren't sure if its a weak D or not? Here is my opinion You and johnny thought is was a die #1 no D. Then when I pointed out some of the die markers you switched to die #3. Which, if the rotation is as you say, I agree this could be a die #3. At this point you should determine if it is a "No D" or "weak D" I think it is obvious, to me, there is a faint trace of a "D" under the date. So the question would be, what would the TPG's give it, if there is such a faint trace. I am not saying any of this to be mean .. to me it is just a learning experience. I have been trying to learn as much as I can about this type coin. In fact the reading I have done since you started this post, I think has helped me learn even more. If it is a die #3 weak D, I think it would be valued at less than $50.00 ( I was offered a NGC slabbed F-12 weak D for $38.00) A die #3 no D weak reverse. could bring over $200 It is only the die #2 no D strong reverse that commands the big price. Again this is just my opinion |
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Just a few final thoughts on this subject: I agree this coin (whether it's a Die #1 or #3) is generally classified as either a 1922 No D Weak Reverse or just 1922 Weak D depending on the TPG. TPGs require both Dies #1 & 3 to be in MS condition in order to determine whether the D is present or not. This coin was clearly not. People who want a "true" 1922 No D generally get a Die #2 (Strong Reverse). However: The pictures clearly showed the mint mark area (blown up to a large scale). And I clearly said in my auction ad that the buyer was to grade the coin and decide what to pay. I believe I presented a clear condition of the coin and its attributes in my ebay auction ad. The buyer asked for no further pictures or emailed me for additional information. When I placed this coin on ebay I expected a final price around $50. I was dumbfounded to see it finish at $605. (Spending $605 for this coin tells me the buyer really did not know what he was looking for and spent lots of money before he researched the coin type.) Now... is it my responsibility to educate this person? Was it wrong of me to take this guy's cash when he won and willingly paid? (Just to be clear; I have agreed, as a moral and responsible person, to refund this buyer's money. If he's dissatisfied, it is the right thing to do. And I will do it.) But I think it's a bit irritating. And now I'm out postal fees (both ways) and insurance costs (around $25). All because someone doesn't know what they're doing or what they were buying and then complained about it. (And threatened Negative Feedback to get what he wanted). Opinions? Was I wrong to auction this coin as a 1922 No D? Should I have educated people in my ebay auction on what type of coin this one was and its anticipated value? (I do actually have conflicted emotions on this one. I certainly would like the cash but is it right to sell this coin for that price?) |
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I do not sell, but if I did, anything worth over $200 would be graded before selling. ANACS is cheap enough and gives me something to fall back on the attribution I made. If the slab said no D, I bet you would not be getting this coin back. Also you might have gotten more than what you did. (or less, you never know)
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Moe, I certainly think that he should pay the postal fees both ways for returning a coin that had clear pictures. Did you actually call it a "No D" in the auction title? Or was it just pictured and up to the buyer as to what it was.
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Hey Moe, I'll give you $50 for that little guy all day long! If he does return it, maybe you should auction it here! =) I don't care what a TPG says, that's close enough for me. It's funny, I think some eBayers get buyer's remorse quite quickly. They realize they bought something AND THEN go research it. Probably should be the other way around... That said, Johnny's question is fair... if the title said "No D", well, then you'd still be better than 98% of eBayers selling "No D's" that are CLEARLY weak D's... =) |
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Rest in Peace
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It's a bit tough to tell but the second 2 appears to be better than the first and the L in LIBERTY appears to be right against the edge, both indicative of a Die #2.
You would need to acertain the reverse condition to confirm the Die #2 status though.
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Rest in Peace
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As was pointed out on the variety forum, the D is there. I can just make it out hidden amongst the junk. Probably just wishful thinking and biased viewing.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah, I see the D in there.
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Pillar of the Community
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Did you get yours back yet, Moe?
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Pillar of the Community
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Yep! Back in the Dansco. And there it will stay at least until my Mom gives me my Dad's EF-40 Die # 2 1922 Plain. (She's promised but I'm still waiting...) It's VERY pretty!!  |
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Cool! If you change your mind, you know who to talk to! =)
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