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How Many Lincoln Collectors Consider The '22 No D A Key?

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 Posted 10/24/2010  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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What do you guys put in place of the 1922 plain?


Look for the die pairs with a weak reverse. They sell at a much lower price. Just be sure to buy a certified example. Watch out of ANACS though, they only certify the die pair 2 with strong reverse as a "no D". Then again, you might find a bargain on an ANACS coin too because they label the true no D with weak reverse as a "weak D". AFAIK only NGC and PCGS will holder those as "no D". They sell at a nice discount.
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 Posted 10/24/2010  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list
It's neat to see so much consensus on this. Like I said before, I agree and am not a fan of the no D. Personally, for the money, I'd rather have a weak reverse plus an example of every major OMM and RPM than the 22 no D (and it would probably be a close call in price).

Ponder this: I wonder how many lower-grade "P-minted" teens and twenties cents in people's collections are actually from Denver or San Francisco? There are some candidate years for these, but I don't recall which they are. I suppose this gives some weight to the argument that the 22 no D is actually part of the series. If the mint had sealed its lips, we might all be tricked!
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 Posted 10/25/2010  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list

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What do you guys put in place of the 1922 plain? I HATE! having open spots


I got some spare Mint Set tokens from another member here - they are struck on a cent planchet. I stuck a D-mint one with the D facing up in that slot!
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 Posted 10/25/2010  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
Along similar lines, does anyone else feel the same way about all the large date/small date varieties? I guess it's not as big of a deal because the cost of these is much lower, but I don't really see these fitting in either. Nor the 1982 zinc/copper varieties.

I guess you could even extend the same argument to the 1909 VDB varieties as well. Cost IS a big factor there.

I would probably be very interested in a pure date/mintmark album for Lincoln cents. Imagine not needing the 1909-S VDB! That would save some bucks!
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 Posted 10/25/2010  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list
The two Lincoln Cents that I don't consider part of the basic collection are the 22 no D and the 55 Doubled Die. These coins are the two that are not "as designed for release". The VDB's were released as intended and then the government changed their mind. the large dates and small dates were released with the knowledge of the mint to correct a problem. The 82 copper and zinc are also released for their own reasons. that being said the only coin I need for my Lincoln Cent Collection is the 1909 S VDB.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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What do you guys put in place of the 1922 plain?
Look for the die pairs with a weak reverse. They sell at a much lower price. Just be sure to buy a certified example. Watch out of ANACS though, they only certify the die pair 2 with strong reverse as a "no D". Then again, you might find a bargain on an ANACS coin too because they label the true no D with weak reverse as a "weak D". AFAIK only NGC and PCGS will holder those as "no D". They sell at a nice discount.
Could not have said it better myself.

I agree, the problem is hype and it is exaggerated by the fact that the album manufacturers have continued to include a place for them in their albums. I will probably put a cheap, well worn AG 1922-D (pseudo-weak-D, where the D is missing from wear) in that hole just so it will not be empty.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
Wonderful idea. I don't think I'll fill it just yet because I still have about 40-50 open slots in the Dansco and then many that need upgraded in quality. When I get around to filling that spot I now know what to do.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Interesting to know that the original hysteria was the misconception that it was minted at Philly as an error. I didn't know that.

You would think that once this was "discovered", interest would have waned.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
You would be right, only if the album publishers would have figured that out. They have not, so there is still a hole to fill.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
I read an article once (can't remember where, sorry!) that baasically the coin magazines and those who make the coin folders essentially decide what 'extra dates/varieties' get published or get a slot in the coin book. This essentially drives demand as people then feel like they need to have that coin to finish their collection. So what is the incentive for them to add dates? I mean, what's in it for them?
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 Posted 10/25/2010  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Like mentioned, it's not a variety and it's not even a mint error.
It is not a key date either. It does however carry a premium for what ever reason one chooses. No need for a hole in a folder for it as if one owned one they would most likely sell it anyway. Best holder for it
would be a TPG slab.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
One could probably argue that the story and controversy alone make it collectible.
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 Posted 10/25/2010  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Definately a collectible coin regardless.
I guess if you had a poor to fair condition one
you could put it in a folder.
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 Posted 10/30/2010  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
Umm, well....what would I put in place of a 1922 "plain"? How about a 1922-D since that's what all of them are.
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 Posted 10/31/2010  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list

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I read an article once (can't remember where, sorry!) that baasically the coin magazines and those who make the coin folders essentially decide what 'extra dates/varieties' get published or get a slot in the coin book. This essentially drives demand as people then feel like they need to have that coin to finish their collection. So what is the incentive for them to add dates? I mean, what's in it for them?



The manufacturers secretly bought thousands of the "added coins" prior to publishing. Then they sat back and waited for the prices to rise, sold, and made millions $$$. Just MHO.
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