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Right. What is natural toning exactly. There was human influence no matter what in some sense. I had a Mercury dime in an old envelope that I had forgotten about for almost 20 years. Last year, I opened the envelope because I had no idea what was inside. Well, there was that Merc with pink toning on both sides. It was white when I put it in there, I remembered. I would define AT as toning which has been artificially accelerated by means of chemicals and a process. swcoin.ecrater.com
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05/08/2011 11:49 pm
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Isn't it common that with the authentic rainbow toning it will only be on one side?
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That is one attribute.
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dch- it is very common on Morgans to have the toning on just one side. It's typically the coin closest to the sulfer bag like the OP said. It's actually more suspect to have toning on both sides. This is what a collector/seller at one of the Whitman shows I went to told me. I wish I had his website still to use as a reference.
All that being said, I still don't know AT from NT on Morgans. I know a camera can make a coin look a lot better or a lot worse and it can go to an extreme in either direction. I would suspect that the colors are not as vibrant in hand - the reason I say this is because if you look at both of the reverse pictures you can see where the pink/yellow areas of the coin fade from one picture to the next. Now with that being said... in my very limited knowledge of these coins I do think that points to this being a NT coin. Typically (again, from the limited coins I've seen in hand vs photo's) the AT are very dull and not transparent. So the fact that this has an oily like appearance - I would say go for it if your eye is drawn to the coin :)
And lastly - the second picture of the reverse has been post processed way too much. But it does help to show the bag marks much better - the fields right of the wings for example.
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What is natural toning exactly. There was human influence no matter what in some sense. Congratulations. I think you just reached the first plateau. |
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New to this,toning. I have 1964 Kennedy 1/2 dollars that are sealed in plastic, from the mint, and are turning color on the edges and into the face and back. Time to get rid of them or hold them?
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Kenneth, the market on tarnished silver Kennedys isn't what I'd call "matured," yet. As such, it probably wouldn't hurt you any, in terms of the risk of depreciation, I'm saying, to hold onto them.
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PCGS put out a great article on spotting AT, and how certain colors just don't overlap with others or something of that nature. I will try to put a link to it.
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The toning is fine, it's the pics that have been juiced. Toning's on the wrong side for that price (obverse is the money side).
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Why would the observe be higher priced than the reverse? Also I was surprised to see the reverse on the front of the NGC holder.
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Obv toning is valued higher because that is almost always the side you see first and the side that gets the most attention. Even grading has an emphasis on the obverse of the coin over the reverse. NGC(and other TPGs) will holder a coin with the reverse on the label side if the submitter requests it.
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Also I was surprised to see the reverse on the front of the NGC holder Does anyone else think this is suspicious? I've never seen a slabbed coin with the reverse on the front of the holder. Could this be one of those fake slabs? Edited by RealPeso
05/09/2011 6:39 pm
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RealPeso - As biokemist notes, "NGC(and other TPGs) will holder a coin with the reverse on the label side if the submitter requests it".
I've only seen it with toned coins. Given that the toning is bringing the value to the coin, it's nice to have that on the front instead of having to flip holders upside-down to show it off.
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RealPeso, It's a common practice with beautifully toned coins (on one side), or, as stated, if the submitter requests it. Go on ebay and type in "Rainbow" under Morgan dollar search. You will see plenty. swcoin.ecrater.com
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That coin is gorgeous and expensive! I believe that the toning is natural because I have one that is similar but is only toned on the reverse. The obverse looks very much like your obverse. If I had that kind of cash I'd buy it in a second considering I love toned coins and I love Morgans! I say go for it.
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