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1871 PEI Cent Coinge/Medal Axis

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 Posted 12/26/2014  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
I would say quite a lot......hard to know exactly what it is worth. I have seen none for sale since the OP. $300? $1000? You might get more if the right two people came to an auction.
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 Posted 12/26/2014  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennyhoarder to your friends list
Thanks for the quick response, guess first step would be to send it in to ICCS and get it certified. Would they note this variation on the holder or do I have to specify?
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 Posted 12/26/2014  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
You should mention it though I am sure they would notice. They will call it medal axis if it is perfectly aligned. If not they will call it rotated dies, which would impact value significantly (i.e., negatively).
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 Posted 12/27/2014  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

If the supposed medal axis is really a near perfect rotation, then that would make sense. Charlton is very loose on 180 degree rotation == flip axis.

An axis is a variety. A rotation is an error.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list
Mine is a medal axis, I assumed they all were...
Ya, it is a perfect 180°
So is it more valuable then a coin alignment cent. The guy wanted a buck for it but I got him to throw it in on a $10 purchase.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
harmonica...

I am afraid that 180 degrees (coinage) is normal. If both sides are "right side up" (both in same direction) then you have the scarce one.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list
Wait, now I am confuse. Canadian coins are coinage alignment and USA coins are medal alignment, correct? Maybe I have my terminology mixed up.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list
picture a coin as a war medal hanging from a ribbon. The coin will be right side up hanging from the ribbon from either the front or the back. This is medal axis.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list

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The reason they do this is so they can purchase these coins at a low price if they do in fact find them to sell later when the price goes through the roof once they publish how rare they are.


you can't be serious?
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 Posted 12/28/2014  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Canadian coins are normally medal axis. The PEI cent though is normally coinage axis. US coins are coinage axis. If the alignment is like a US coin, it is normal. If it is like a Canadian coin, it is rare.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harmonica to your friends list
Thank you tfred and smallcentguy. I thought that a millitary medal that you pinned above your breast was upside down so you could pull it up so they other guy could see the reverse. My mistake.

So I have the coinage axis version (what I thought was medal axis/ American standard), which is common.

I had no idea that the P.E.I. came in a coinage axis! I want one know!
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 Posted 12/28/2014  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

Dominion of Canada cents are all medal. Province of Canada (1858/1859) had some scarce coinage (or is that all rotation?). But, Canadian silver was coinage until it started being made in Canada in 1908.

From a collecting standpoint, I think medal is superior. It displays better.

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 Posted 12/28/2014  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list

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The reason they do this is so they can purchase these coins at a low price if they do in fact find them to sell later when the price goes through the roof once they publish how rare they are.


What hole have you been hiding in?

You are painting a really broad brush here, and as an author of variety section and several papers on varieties, I find this comment petty and insulting.

The prices are not a function of rarity, they are based on available information of past auctions and sales. Sometimes, these publishers will accommodate collectors to list varieties, but have no pricing available to them. The 1929 High 9 was a perfect example... it made it into the Charlton catalogue quickly, but prices were not adjusted until the market was established.
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 Posted 05/07/2022  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Just renewing this old topic. I decided to pull out the acetone today and take the lacquer off this coin which I picked up a few years back. I am pretty happy with the results. Off to PCGS next week!
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 Posted 05/07/2022  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Wonderful job! Good luck with PCGS.
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