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1939 Royal Visit Medal Diff Dies Used

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 Posted 09/23/2011  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list

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I have the silver version as well, it's available on ebay from time to time. But these medals are both the same size aren't they? Probably figured they needed more as the original batch all got sent out and this was the second rendition.


Yes they are the same size and same metal type (bronze)
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 Posted 09/23/2011  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
The fleur-de-lis in the crowns are completely different as well.
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 Posted 09/23/2011  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numidan to your friends list
Very interesting indeed.

The silver medal I have is of the second type (eyes semi closed) and the bronze medal I have is of the first type (eyes wide open).

Good observation Imohtep!
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 Posted 09/24/2011  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dan-in-crystal-lake to your friends list
The kings collar is different as is the queens shoulder
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 Posted 09/24/2011  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
Curious => I haven't gone upstairs and checked mine yet, but is there any monetary difference between the types? ... my Granny left me a silver version (Silver dollar sized), but I remember looking up the value of the coin and being a bit disappointed by my findings ... "however", I didn't realize that there were different busts/versions of the coin ...

... hmmm? => I love this type of "stuff" when all of sudden your heart-rate increases, because you're "sure" that you have the lucky Golden-Ticket! (ahhhh, coin collecting rocks!)
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 Posted 09/24/2011  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
Both bronze are for sale on ebay right now....I suspect not that rare.....
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... rats ...
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 Posted 09/25/2011  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list

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Both bronze are for sale on ebay right now....I suspect not that rare.....


mabye not so rare...but I'm sure not many people were aware there was a variety...this gives those hardcore collectors just another coin to look for :)
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 Posted 09/26/2011  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
I wonder if some or all of these medallions weren't struck by someone else under contract
There were about 3 million schoolchildren at the time,it would have required a hefty portion of the mint's capacity
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 Posted 11/05/2011  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
Two different obverse dies were used by the Ottawa Branch of The Royal Mint (later to become the Royal Canadian Mint) to produce the Royal Visit school children's medal. Due to production scheduling issues, the Mint was forced to seek outside help with the creation of the dies in order to be able to produce the over 2.5 million medals needed in time for the visit.

The first dies used were prepared by Thomas Shingles while working at a private firm in Winnipeg before he joined the Mint staff. The Shingles obverse has the bust extend to the medal's edge, and is not as artistically strong as the obverse prepared by Percy Metcalfe of The Royal Mint in London.

The Metcalfe obverse -- with space between the medal's edge and bust -- was put into production upon its arrival at the Mint.

I don't know of the mintage split between the two dies.

Hope this helps!
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 Posted 11/05/2011  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
Great info Commems...! What source did you use?
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 Posted 11/06/2011  1:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
Thanks for the update commems,mystery solved.
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 Posted 11/06/2011  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
I just picked up the silver version (paired with the copper short-bust version or Metcalf version) at today's coin show.
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 Posted 11/06/2011  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
Hello!

My primary reference was Haxby's "Striking Impressions", it's a history of the RCM and its coinage/medals -- an interesting read and solid reference. Recommended!

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 Posted 11/07/2011  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
Thanks. I actually have the book (English and French), but haven't read it. I was going to ask about the silver fineness, but I'll check the book now!
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