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Was a typo I meant Gem  |
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Hi Markn, love your blog, unfortunately it has cost me a fair bit of money already .. If we turn the focus onto silver coins now, where toning is considered attractive by collectors, is there a point where this detracts from the eye appeal? Or does the heavy toning keep the newbies like me who are use to all things shiny away? Take the 1927 commemorative florin which is 85 years old this year. The number of shiny or untoned specimens on ebay outweighs the heavily toned (and sometimes very high graded Unc+) specimens significantly. Can silver this old look that good without cleaning at some point ? I do understand if properly stored, the silver can maintain its luster but would all the collectors back in the day have known the right way ? |
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A lot of toned silver is dipped because dealers find it easier selling bright coins than toned ones. I think this is because uneducated collectors equate a bright white coin to being uncirculated or "better" than a toned coin. A lightly dipped coin is hard to pick and can be attractive. A heavily dipped coin is easily picked and is not attractive.
Personally I don't think many coins can be bright and 75 years old so any older coin that is bright I approach with some suspicion. Personally I think toned coins are mostly more attractive than bright white coins, but not all toned coins. Darkly toned coins with spots aren't great to look at and neither are coins with mottled flat grey toning.
It's interesting that you mention the 1927 florin, because they are about the most attractively toned pre decimal coin you'll find. There's some stunners out there!
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It's interesting that you mention the 1927 florin, because they are about the most attractively toned pre decimal coin you'll find. There's some stunners out there! Any 1927 parlement house coin in good nick is a winner. |
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Here's a nice one we had a while back.  Edited by markn
03/06/2012 9:56 pm
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Whilst I can definitely appreciate why some people find such a coin attractive I prefer silver coins white or with only light toning.
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here's another lol, my photos doesn't do this coin justice , it has so many colours in the toning, one of my favs  |
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I dont mind yours bellyflorin. It has lighter toning and I think thats nicer.
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Is that one of the purple and blue/green ones? Nice details on the steps as well  Edited by trout1105
03/07/2012 02:04 am
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Yep Trout , it has amazing colours and even toning, it is so nice in the sunlight,i reckon when I first got it I looked at it for hours .lol
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I've seen a couple of these and they are stunning  The design of that coin really works well with that type of toning I will get one eventually|| |
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Markn, With that florin, has the camera done it justice ? There is one on ebay at the moment with heavier toning than that, however in the last photo, where the coin is on an angle, even as a newbie I can start to understand why this type of tonight is attractive to collectors. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Australia-1...em519922156c-rob |
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At 150 quid  don't even go there rob  $40-$60 maybe but not that much |
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Buying it never crossed my mind. Its all good :P
Just using it as an example
I think for the Canberra 1927 florins there are enough slabbed examples to chose from, and I would be comfortable knowing the coin is what it claims to be (sellers such as purple penny)
I dare say if dealers / sellers knew there unslabbed coins were good enough to grade at pcgs ms65 or higher (pcgs shows 5 x ms66 and 1 x ms67) we'd have a hard time picking them up for anything near catalog prices ( prices seen in another thread were $2700 for the 66, and $4000 for the 67 )
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I dare say if dealers / sellers knew there unslabbed coins were good enough to grade at pcgs ms65 or higher (pcgs shows 5 x ms66 and 1 x ms67) we'd have a hard time picking them up for anything near catalog prices ( prices seen in another thread were $2700 for the 66, and $4000 for the 67 ) I truly believe that this slabbed BS is getting out of hand in AUS. Whack it in a slab and it is worth 4-10X, Absolute rubbish. How on earth are you going to grade and authenticate a coin entombed in plastic  if you cannot get a weight,measurement and your Lupe on a coin ( without looking through plastic) how on earth can you grade it effectively. I know that a heap of people send their coins to PCGS and what ever other acronym the other grading companies use to verify that their coin is genuine and get a grade on it. Most of these people are investors not collectors and just want the assurance that their coin is Kosher. That still doesn't justify the huge mark up on a coin just because it is entombed in plastic. If you are relying on a third party grading company to make an investment in coins you will pay dearly for that service. The best ammunition for collecting/investing is knowledge. I know this may take time and effort but it is well worth the effort. Besides all you have to do is ask on this site and there will be a plethora of information given to you for FREE. So bugger the sobbed coins get em raw and just ask |
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