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 Posted 05/26/2012  09:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Juststartingout to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I compared these 1964 pennies and the one on the right seems to have a close AM

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 Posted 05/26/2012  09:39 am  Show Profile   Check DrDon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They both look normal to me.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both of those coins have the same normal reverse for that year.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wide AM's and close AM's are only relevant between the years 1992-2000.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Juststartingout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/26/2012  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papatony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wide and Close AM can also be identified by the "TAT" in States. if the letters "T A T" have even spacing its a WIDE AM if the "T AT" looks like that with the 2nd T close to the A its a CLOSE date. I think Coop explained that in another post I dont remember where it was sorry. I just know it has helped me in my search.
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 Posted 05/26/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you want examples...get a 1992 cent for an example of a Wide AM
and a 1993 for an example of a Close AM (use business strikes Philly or Denver)
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 Posted 05/26/2012  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Juststartingout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/29/2012  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mudd1761 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I zoomed in it appeared to me that the coin on the right had some damage to the left leg of the M pushing the bottom of said leg out toward the A. just my humble opnion
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 Posted 06/01/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Juststartingout to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 06/01/2012  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The diagnostic information given for wide and close AM cents, while applicable elsewhere, is not applicable here. This is a 1964 cent. It does not fall within the range of dates to even qualify as either wide or close AM.

The reverse design used to hub 1964 cent reverse dies was the same throughout the year. The only remarkable difference between these two coins is perhaps the die state of each die as they struck each coin. There is no "variety" difference on any of the 1964 business strike cents.
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 Posted 06/01/2012  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No matter what date of memorials, the wide AM has the AME centered on the "M". Note on the example above. The "M" is centered. On the close AM the M is off center to the left on these. So it's not the space between the A & M that is the determing factor. It is where the "M" is centered. This applies for all memorials as to close or wide AM's.
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 Posted 06/01/2012  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe "wide AM" and "close AM" is misleading terminology. It might make more sense to talk about it in terms of RDVs the way we do with the 1988 RDV-006.

1998, 1999 and 2000 WAMs are RDV-006. "Normal" 1993-2008 are RDV-007, as are the rare 1992 and 1992-D CAMs.

1964 is always RDV-001 and the next new RDV (RDV-002) did not appear until 1969.

( Lincoln Memorial cent RDV reference)
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 Posted 01/23/2020  02:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Patrick Gilhool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The FG WILL NE VERY CLOSE to the building of it's a wide aswell alot closer than the close almost touching of not touching. That's a great way to tell the difference between the two
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 Posted 01/23/2020  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you realise the thread you were replying to is 8 years old

AND, Wide AM's and close AM's are only relevant between the years 1992-2000.
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