1964 Doubled Die Reverse / DDR Looks To Be A FS-251964-801

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JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/17/2007 10:40 pm I just found this in a bullion bag. I'm pretty pyshed. I went to Coneca to check the markers for this coin and they point out die cracks going from the back of the eagles head and from the S of Pluribus going to the wing. This coin has both of these die cracks. Report this Post to the Staff

cpfull Pillar of the Community United States 603 Posts	Posted 02/17/2007 10:53 pm I am very new to errors and such, but looking at your pictures and the Cherry Pickers Guide, I would think it a fs-25-1964-804, not 801. the 801 looks like the hole of the A in quarter is filled in, while the 04 has a little hole left, as does your picture. Either way, nice find Report this Post to the Staff
JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/17/2007 11:26 pm Hmm... Could be.I will admit I am new at this too. I went with 801 because Coneca identifies the die crack going from the S of Pluribus to the wing. Coneca doesn't identify the Sto wing crack for 804. I wouldn't mind it being an 804 though since it appears to be worth a little more. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 02/19/2007 09:58 am I don't believe your coin is a doubled die at all. I see nothing in your images to indicate so. Report this Post to the Staff
JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/19/2007 10:35 am Report this Post to the Staff
JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/19/2007 10:58 am Here is the UART of quarter blown up larger. To me these letters (and the others) are clearly doubled and what little I know this does not appear to be Machine Doubling. In any event the letters are clearly doubled. And what about die cracks on the reverse that Coneca points out as markers for this double die. Thanks, Report this Post to the Staff
madhandles761991 Pillar of the Community United States 577 Posts	Posted 02/19/2007 8:56 pm I see a lot of doubling on each letter, I have no idea which attribution it is, but I see doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/20/2007 5:01 pm Thanks Madhandles.I knew I wasn't seeing things. Copper, With this blown up pic would you agree this coin is doubled and in your opinion is this die doubling versus Machine Doubling. Thanks, Report this Post to the Staff
garylcsr Pillar of the Community United States 1952 Posts	Posted 02/21/2007 12:10 am it looks like Machine Doubling to me. notice the shelf . a double die would be more like a rolled effect and not the shelf. Gary Report this Post to the Staff
DieVarieties New Member United States 27 Posts	Posted 02/21/2007 08:57 am That's a super nice DDR. Congrats on that find! I'm not sure of the attribution but being that strong of doubling it certainly could be the FS. Report this Post to the Staff
JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/21/2007 09:10 am Thanks for the input DieVarieties and Gary. This does not appear to be Machine Doubling that I have seen on some of the other coins. The serifs are present and the doubling looks exactly like the pics in the Cherry Pickers Guide. Plus the die cracks on the back tend to make me believe that this is a legite double die. Does anyone in the forum have a picture of a verfied FS-25-1964-801 or FS-25-1964-804 that we could compare to this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 02/21/2007 10:22 am Yup, doubled die and a nice one at that...I couldn't see it in the first image because of the lighting and distance from the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
JimR Pillar of the Community United States 1490 Posts	Posted 02/21/2007 3:41 pm Thanks Copper. Glad to get your confirmation as well. Report this Post to the Staff
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1964 DDR Looks To Be A FS-251964-801