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yarm Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 10/30/2012 10:31 pm Charlton PC-1B4, Breton 527. Report this Post to the Staff

Wade Pillar of the Community Canada 2781 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 12:18 am stunning condition Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9862 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 10:49 am Absolutely stunning,what grade is it? I recall reading somewhere(perhaps Charltons)that proof strikes were made after the fact by someone who had obtained the original dies.Is this one of those restrikes? "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
copper nickel daddy Pillar of the Community United States 2224 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 3:50 pm I'm a huge fan of Canadian Colonial tokens, and this one is AWESOME! Love it! Report this Post to the Staff
chequer Pillar of the Community Canada 4227 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 4:22 pm Wow, I would so love that token Report this Post to the Staff
carleroo Valued Member Canada 155 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 4:35 pm Looks like it was minted last week. Fantastic! Report this Post to the Staff
yarm Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 8:35 pm The 1844 Bank of Montreal bank token was graded NGC PF65BN. I couldn't find any indication in Charlton of restrikes for any of the 7 major types of pre-confederation proof bank tokens. Maybe Courteau? I know a buyer if they do exist. Report this Post to the Staff
D Pillar of the Community Canada 899 Posts	Posted 10/31/2012 11:48 pm Congrats yarm.... This is the nicest Canadian token I have seen... Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9862 Posts	Posted 11/11/2012 11:29 pm yarm...From Coins Of Canada by Haxby & Willey "...In additon...a mule exists with the Habitant reverse of 1837(with City Bank on the ribbon)...long been known that dies and other tools...fell into the hands of...W.J.Taylor and that he used them to produce proofs for sale to collectors.It is also believed that Taylor produced a number of mules.." The mule is a penny not half penny.No prices listed for the restrikes.The Boulton & Watt mules are listed as Breton 526a, the Taylor mules are priced at about 80% of the originals. I googled W.J.Taylor and it seems his restrikes and mules using former Boulton&Watt tools and dies were not limited to Canadian tokens. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 11/11/2012 11:35 pm Report this Post to the Staff
yarm Valued Member United States 343 Posts	Posted 11/12/2012 02:49 am Thanks DBM! I'm taking a closer look at the penny tokens in light of your posting. Here's the obverse and reverse of what Charlton (and NGC) called PC2-A1, in medal alignment, mint state rather than proof. Charlton claims that "PC-2A1 is possibly the W.J.Taylor specimens from the Soho mint dies" and "It is not a mule of the 1842/1837 penny as the obverse die is different from the 1842 obverse die used to mint PC-2B" (the third image below). Even if that's so, it still seems like some sort of mule to me. This particular PC-2B is proof or prooflike depending on whether PCGS or NGC is looking at it. (There are auction records for Taylor restrikes of the 1794 Copper Co of Upper Canada in proof, but I have yet to locate any sales of Tayler restrikes of other Canadian Soho products in proof.) Edited by yarm 11/12/2012 11:45 am Report this Post to the Staff
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