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 Posted 09/07/2013  06:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mattyd1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been a lurker on these forums for a while and would love to get some opinions on some florins I'm about to purchase.

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 Posted 09/07/2013  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks silver dipped to me in the first 2 pics sorry to say,other wise gEF maybe a little better on the reverse.

Just noticed it is your 1st post so to the forum.
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First post so m.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  12:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All three look in the EF range but are all horribly dipped. Personally I wouldnt buy any of them.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattyd1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the warm welcomes. Are you sure they've been dipped? How can you tell? I've read a few websites about cleaning but it's hard to picture what they're talking about without examples.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That 1934 coin looks like it has been "Peter Walliced"
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 Posted 09/08/2013  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wwwww to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a pre-clean picture of the 1923:
https://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=240092
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 Posted 09/08/2013  03:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add r9453 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Are you sure they've been dipped?


The 1934 is quite obvious, its way too reflective, unnatural looking. It didn't get that way without intervention which would have involved dipping (immersing) the coin in some kind of silver cleaning solution.


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How can you tell?


The second two are less obvious to me (I'm relatively new to this as well) but I don't doubt the guys are correct, they have heaps of experience.

Here is a side by side comparison of the coin Walter referred to and the one in the OP:

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 Posted 09/08/2013  04:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was tired when I looked at this thread last night,i did'nt even notice there are 3 different coins
hoping you have'nt actually purchased any of these coins mattyd.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey mattyd1 to CCF
Anyway they certainly do look dipped in paricular the first as it is uniformly shiny in the picture while an uncleaned one would display cartwheeling lustre from it's striking.
Anyway you wouldn't happen to have been offered these coins by a dealer? prehaps one from ANDA?

p.s. could you please name the person who offered these to you? I have a feeling I can guess who from the pictures but I would like to make sure.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  05:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mattyd1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peter Wallace the rugby player? What's he got to do with these?

I haven't paid for them yet thankfully. Soooo glad I asked here first. The 1934 is from AFS Coins, the 1911 and 1923 are from Klaus Ford Numismatics. I asked them both if the coins were cleaned and neither admitted to it. Does ANDA have a facility to report these things?

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Peter Wallace the rugby player? What's he got to do with these?


Peter Wallace is a purveyor of dodgy coins on ebay, check this thread
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 Posted 09/08/2013  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly as I thought matty unfortunately there is no way to report it through ANDA as I believe Klaus Ford is a founding member and would probably have a very large say in any reports against any dealer in the organisation.

p.s. not the rugby player from the Brisbane Broncos this one is more dodgy [00!]
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That is utterly disgusting from Klaus. A blatant lie.
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 Posted 09/08/2013  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That is utterly disgusting from Klaus. A blatant lie.


What is next Kpcgs slabs
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Really really really dishonest and further evidence to the claim that ANDA membership means NOTHING
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