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LMC 1995-P DDR? Extra Column In Bay 5?

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Looking for opinions on this LMC 1995-P. In bay 5 is what looks to me like a possible extra column. There may also be an extra partial column in bay 4; but I am not able to to get a close enough shot of it with my cell phone, I think, to be able to make a judgment call on it. I'm hoping the shots of bay 5, however, are good enough. If I try to get any closer it all becomes a fuzzy mess.

Wexler (Doubleddie.com) show 3 ddrs for 1995 that I think look similar to what's going on in bay 5 of this coin (WDDR-003, WDDR-010 & WDDR011), but those happen in either the first three bays or the last two. So if this is a DDR I'm wondering if is new, or if anybody is already ware of it.

Any thoughts and opinions will be appreciated.



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 Posted 07/06/2015  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing a normal coin...sorry.
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I see it and looks DDR to me. Let's wait for one of the experts to chime in.
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 Posted 07/06/2015  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oooh, pretty promising. Waiting for experts, but I say DDR.
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 Posted 07/06/2015  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shtudentt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very interesting
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With the last images, you can see the line below the steps. So I'm thinking this is a die scratch. Does it extend above the roof?
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It appears to me to be a DDR but not one that I can find listed anywhere.
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No, it stops just a little bit before it hits the roof line (like just before the rounded part inside the bay). Looking at it, I also see it stopping right at the floor line (that is, at that extra level inside the bay horizontal with the steps). There is a small scratch on the steps just underneath it, which might, I think, make it looks like it extends beyond the floor.
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 Posted 07/06/2015  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No I meant below the base of the Memorial. I can see the line continuing below the base line.
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Try to get a photo with the light source at a different angle.
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Rotated 90 degrees.
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Okay, got it. Tomorrow (it's getting near bedtime for bonzo - I'm on the east coast) I'll shoot a bunch of different angles and try some different light sources. Now that I know what you're looking for. Might try it outdoors on my lunch hour as well. I appreciate all the input and comments. To me this is a lot of fun - regardless if it turns out to be a DDR or not.
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 Posted 07/07/2015  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcanniz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks good to me... but I'm no expert
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Had to start a new post (part II) as I couldn't figure out how to post images in an on discussion.
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I've learned a lot through this discussion - and can see what you're saying, Coop, about the die scratches. Wow! I never would have thought to check for them. I took some pictures this afternoon, and while I'm not seeing any die scratches above the memorial day, they are clear below it - and one of them (the shorter one) does seem to line up.

Qustion : Since the "line" running down bay 5 looks so similar (to me - though I've only seen pics, never a coin in hand) to the doubling on the varieties I previously mentioned, or, for example, to the newly accredited 1959 DDR-003 (which is what kind of got me looking for these), is there a way to rule out the one (the die scratch) from the other (the doubled die)?

[Sorry - just ignore the duplicate images. There's 2 or 3 good pictures here that I think show the areas above and below the memorial buildings clearly

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That is quite an eye for detail you have Coop. I didn't even notice the other marks until you pointed them out.
What kind of computer monitor do you use?
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