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Shield Cent Doubled Die Reverses. What To Look For When Searching

 
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 Posted 04/03/2016  10:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
How to identify Lincoln Shield Cent Doubled dies.

Seems like there are a lot more doubled dies from Philly these last few years. The Denver cents seem to be duds for these. They maybe an equipment malfunction in Philly for creating dies. It first started in 2006 with many doubled dies obverse and reverse. Then in 2009 their was a lot of DDR's that year. With the Shield cents we see every now and then one or two dies that show fantastic hub doubling. Almost always on the Philly cents. So they are the ones to search. Here in Denver land, it is ho hum all the time. But hang in there, they may start sometime.

On the Shield cents they tend to be found on the lower initials one side or both sides first. (we that is where I start looking) there have been some trails die found and a few nice DDRs. So let see what to look for and where to look for these on this series.

LB:








JFM:










EPU:



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UNUM:



UNITED:




STATES:





OF:




AMERICA:






ONE:



CENT:




Although these are not doubled dies, trails do have some interest as they are a die variety. Here are a few I've found:



Hope this helps in your searches. I'm sure there will still be a lot more Shield DDR in the future. But keep in mind that this is to help you know where to look on these for the doubled dies we love to find.


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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 04/03/2016  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slamnbass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The thing I pickup on fairly easily after the initials is the distortion of the incuse devices...all the shield cent doubled dies I have come across always seem to in some way effect the incuse EPU but I've got to think this does not have to be the case is it?
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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr8 as usual COOP and thanks!!
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Depending of the event that caused the doubled die (single squeeze process) it may changes the rules a bit. If it is the class 9 doubling, then the snap into the correct position will alter the rules a bit.

Class 9 doubling:
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
Lower areas of the intials only affected.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
Note the doubling on the left side of the central devices on this one.
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
Doubling on the lower initials central area.


Class 4
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds

Quote:
Very strong extra thickness with distortion and some minor notching can be seen on the left side of the reverse. This includes the initials LB, ONE, portions of the shield, and UNITED STATES. More minor extra thickness and notching shows on the right side. Note the distortion and thinning of the motto as this is an incuse area of the design.

Note more of the devices are affected. Top to bottom and side to side.




Class 4+8
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
[quote]Strong extra thickness can be seen on on LB, USA, and ONE CENT, with moderate extra thickness on JFM and the shield. Notches can be found on the bottom left N and E of ONE, ENT of CENT and the LB. Distortion is seen on the incuse letters in EPU.
I noticed the word distort on this one. That maybe because of a tilting of the die:

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds

This one probably should have been listed as a Class 4+8 die:
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
It looks like all the die was affected with distortion on the devices top to bottom.

That question opened my eyes a lot better as to why there are different classes for the single squeeze dies.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 04/04/2016  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, how fantastic - Thanks coop - Yourrrrrrrrrrrrrr Grrrrrrrrrreat.
Been gone for the weekend and come back and it was like Christmas, all these presents (posts) for the DDR's on the LC's.
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a special thanks to everyone. Your ideas, give me ideas. Keep them coming.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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Love this post. These are the hardest ones for me. Probably why I don't have any in a 2x2 yet.
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Good details - thanks!
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Coop thread RSC

Added this to make searching easier.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 12/04/2018  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for this post. I've been looking for these, and now I have more to look for! Thank you Mr Coop. Appreciate the time and effort you put into this. Happy hunting!

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