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Is This Feeder Finger Damage?

 
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 Posted 09/14/2016  6:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jeremy123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I got a 1995 P Dime from my change today at Walgreens and noticed on the reverse its got scratches that go behind all the lettering. The scrapes cross through other scrapes going in different directions. In a way, they form a diamond with the inner fields without scrapes. I attempted to look it up and kept coming back to the Feeder Finger and die scrapes. I took a load of photos since this is my first one that looks like this. Tell me what you think

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Jeremy

Note: The last photo shows the shape in which they form (red lines) while leaving the center (green circle)untouched. If you want more photos feel free to ask and I will try to take better photos.




































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 Posted 09/14/2016  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heavy die polishing.
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 Posted 09/14/2016  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Looks like wire brush marks.

Not an error coin.

Good pics.
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 Posted 09/14/2016  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So your saying the die was wire brushed? It's crazy how it goes in four different directions.
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 Posted 09/14/2016  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jake the Dog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chances are there was a die clash which would have left an outline of Roosevelts head. They would have had to wire brush/polish the entire circumference if the clash was strong enough.

Below is a link to a clashed Roosevelt reverse. I found years ago.

http://goccf.com/t/230006
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 Posted 09/14/2016  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was a great find Jake!
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 Posted 09/14/2016  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So when they found these clashes being made they would scrub them off with a wire brush and polish it? Interesting, I would never have known that, thanks for the info Jake and nice find. You'd think someone at the mint would attempt to polish this die out again to get rid of all those scrapes before making more dimes. Its really cool how the scrapes on the outside fields went into four directions leaving the center fields all smooth (diamond shape. It was a "eureka" moment for me and I don't get them often.
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 Posted 09/15/2016  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They don't always leave deep scratches like that. Sometimes they can even polish away details from the die's surface and the coins minted with that die will be missing some of the original design's details.
A great example of this is the 1922 plain Lincoln cent. Die Pair #2 is suspected of having the D mint mark polished away after a die clash. The reverse die was replaced with a new one but the obverse was just polished. That's why the reverse of this coin has a sharp strike but the obverse appears worn, even in better grades.
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 Posted 09/15/2016  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The story I heard was that they were give just a few dies that year and they had to keep polishing them as they were not getting more. So the obverse dies suffered.
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 Posted 09/15/2016  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information. Well I plan on keeping it as a future reference in case I run into more. I highly doubt I will find another like this one with die scrapes in multiple directions, overlapping each other with a smooth center. Pretty cool, it reminds of reading Coincents 2016P Rosie Feeder Finger/Die Scrapes thread but his are horizontal and in the center on the reverse.
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 Posted 09/15/2016  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you are seeing is something the mint called "stoning" of the dies. Sometimes to remove clashmarks they would use an emory stick with coarse abrasives to scour out the marks. Now ideally this would be followed with finer abrasives and eventually polishing with a circular lap to remove all the scratches left by the coarse abrasives. (Polishing out heavy clashmarks with the fine polishing lap would that forever.) Well that didn't always happen, maybe they forgot or were pressed for production and the coarsely abraded dies were put back into service. We call all of these marks coarse, fine, or almost invisible, die polish lines. Although in the early stages they really aren't "polishing".
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