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bettycake New Member United States 10 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 09:11 am Going to try and download. One coin expert said real, one said no, one said ? Thanks. Betty Image: bettycake-1909-s-vdb-cent-0003.jpg 12.89 KB Report this Post to the Staff

Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 09:14 am Betty, better pics would really help, but the bottom serif on the MM does not look correct to me. Jim Edited by Jim1953 03/17/2008 09:15 am Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 12:14 pm Jim... Just wondering why it does't look alright to you, What do you see ? I'm looking for one of these and I'd like to be careful. Thanks, SHAFTA9a Edited by SHAFTA9a 03/17/2008 12:17 pm Report this Post to the Staff
hadleydog Pillar of the Community Canada 1267 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 3:19 pm Here's bettycakes.... A known real one..... Hmmmmmmmm...... Edited by hadleydog 03/17/2008 4:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Jaobler Pillar of the Community United States 6381 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 3:44 pm According to the PCGS grading and counterfeit guide there are 4 different obverse dies for the S-VDB and the mintmark position varies between them. However, the mintmarks are identical on all 4 dies and they have a consistent "squarish" shape. The mintmark on Bettycakes' coin doesn't look good. The bottom curve hangs too low and the end is not tight against the center curve the way it should be. Based on this photo I'd say it's a fake. Report this Post to the Staff
SHAFTA9a Bedrock of the Community Canada 10743 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 7:02 pm Thanks, hadleydog & Jaobler, Now.. how would someone put an S on the coin? Report this Post to the Staff
Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 8:05 pm Shafta, people have been known to take an "S" off of another coin and glue it on an 1909 VDB. Under a scope it would probably be evident, but Machinists can do amazing things. The Way I have had the MM explained to me on a 1909-S VDB is that the ends of the serifs should be flat and parallel to each other, not rounded as Betty's appears on the lower serif. The upper serif seems to appear correct. Closer pics would be a great help. Hadleydog's pic shows this and how the flat portion of the serifs should be more or less in line with the loop of the "S" on each side. Jim Report this Post to the Staff
Lucky_13 Pillar of the Community United States 749 Posts	Posted 03/17/2008 8:09 pm From one collector to another..I wish for you.. that it is real Bettycake Report this Post to the Staff
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