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1878-S Trade Dollar (Craigslist)

 
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 Posted 01/16/2017  11:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
http://syracuse.craigslist.org/clt/5961214250.html

1. Does this appear to be authentic?
2. How bout original (i.e., not cleaned)?
3. Seller claims ignorance on value...what would you offer?

Other thoughts? Thanks!
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 Posted 01/16/2017  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it's authentic but based on the picture of the obverse it appears to be harshly cleaned. I would message the seller and ask for more pics. It looks like it's vF-35 details.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bad fake, typical disconnected leaves in branch, etc. Worth about nothing.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adam: I think I see what you're saying. Are you talking about the leaf on the obverse held by liberty that is not connected to the branch?
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 Posted 01/16/2017  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fathead 5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tell the seller it's a fake.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
fake, and not a very good one.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, well, a lot of agreement here. I looked up some websites that indicate typical identifying attributes of fakes. I'm not necessarily seeing those here. It appears there is consistency with a Type 2 obverse and a Type 2 reverse for this date.

Aside from paralyse, who else can tell me why they believe it is a fake?

Thank you.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add one_fine_dime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one has "disconnected leaves in branch" and is apparently authentic.

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 Posted 01/17/2017  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would ask the seller for the weight of the coin before making a purchase. I am not seeing anything obvious that makes the coin a counterfeit. I found another coin in a PCGS holder that did not have a stem connecting the bottom leaves. The Craig coin is a best VF Details Cleaned. If genuine, would have a value around $100.


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 Posted 01/17/2017  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is something that does not look right about the Craig coin. The first S in STATES is totally different.

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 Posted 01/17/2017  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I enlarged the view in the Craiglist seller photo and the S appears to be fine, without physical inspection, photos is not good enough for Trade dollars.

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 Posted 01/17/2017  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another area on the Craig coin that would give me concern would be the eagle's tail feathers. When viewing the Craig coin the right side tail feather does not tuck into the feathers above as the right tail feather goes to the outside. It could be a scratch or a counterfeit error.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned but looks fine to me. If you meet him, take a magnet and your scale.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I seems clear from the obverse pic that it's been cleaned. I just don't see the upside here, especially buying it raw.
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 Posted 01/17/2017  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The date position looks off on the Craigslist coin. Is this normal?
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