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1970-S Proof Lincoln DDO Help

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Pretty sure this is 1970S-1DO-028P. My eyes are now sufficiently buggy, opinions?


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Forgive my learning curve here.

I was looking at Liberty in particular. I see your notching upper left.

Am I looking at the wrong listing again?
To me it doesn't look like it at all.

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That's what I wasn't quite sure of. CC lists their coin as EDS. The similarities are in the motto, all doubling is exactly like CC, all around. On mine under the L lower bar is a line and the similar marking on the lower left corner of the E is identical, BUT L isn't notched at all. Now the date is a bit different too, the 0 inside is doubled on left curve but not on outside right. Mine also has no gouge between BE.

I just cant find another entry that has a match to the motto as 028 does. Could this be a later die state than CC example? OR...is this just MD that mimicks the doubling?
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Proof coins are always tricky, but yours looks like a DDO the devices are widened and you can see the separation in the notching.

I have been looking at more of the listings as well. No match yet. I just always start at Liberty (that is just how I started out learning)

I am NOT one of the great experts here.

Did you check Wexler's at all?

EDIT: Just did a side by side for the IN GOD


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Yea, I have always started on motto, IN GOD WE... Where I found a 1972P DDO to be exact. No, haven't checked Wexlers since wasn't any listed on other references only Coneca as 6-0-I CCW.
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My problem with comparing to 1970S-1DO-028P is I can't get the mint marks to line up.

See some signs of DDO in the motto, but unable to match with any others yet after the first pass. Thanks, Doug.
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Thanks Doug, same problem I've had, Wexler don't have it and Coneca's is seemingly different than mine and CC's?



Then after we do this, need to figure if MM is RPM or not. Think I see MD but also under upper curve an under center curve see indications of a maybe, try to magnify date area.

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That is not a match on the mint mark position and not the same doubling as 1970S-1DO-028.
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Thanks coop. Now, what is it? I do see doubling on motto, could this be one of the three CC Non-listings of proof examples? CC makes no cross ref to any other attributors, how can one find out?



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it's an RPM with Md. it's A Doubled Die, maybe a new listing. it makes my eyes buggy.
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Not a RPM. Note the top of the '9'. It shows the same MD.
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Coop,I think your looking at Jason's coin.
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Update: comparing to Variety vista, is close to DDO-021, hub rotation is same, but still have some differences, gonna fire up computer soon to really compare...

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You know what, I was thinking of the coin on the right. But the one on the left is not a RPM either. Those lines near the mint mark are from a damaged punch.
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Very similar but not identical. MM in wrong spot, no matter how hard I tried, just couldn't move it up higher! The mystery continues, still think DDO, just can't match known listings?
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Too bad we can't give it a nudge this way or that way when we need to .

Good luck Crazyb

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