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 Posted 07/13/2017  7:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add JJuliano to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The coin has a frosted look that increases as you view towards the edge. Is this a photography issue or a coin issue? If coin issue what is going on?



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 Posted 07/13/2017  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die wear maybe? Like a transition from PL to normal?
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 Posted 07/13/2017  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is that the coin is frosted with some rim toning. The black circular area is most like a reflection of the camera lens.
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 Posted 07/13/2017  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's using a homemade diffusing of some sort, lite areas outer, mid darkened center lighter, looks like natural frost with bag rubs...but if one is good, that can be artificial
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 Posted 07/13/2017  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Fuzzy317's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and appears they are using a circular light, and that may be the reason for the darker center.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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and appears they are using a circular light, and that may be the reason for the darker center.
I agree.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JJuliano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How does the lighting, in this case, effect the condition of the coin? What are the opinions on this coin as presented? Thanks again. Just trying to learn.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The goal of taking coin photos is to make the coin appear as the view in hand. The photo could be hiding issues with the coin. From photos the coin does not appear to higher than MS 61, but it could be a details or AU. The best practice on buying coins with strange photos like this is to pass.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tend to agree, or ask for better ones.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller is using a sneaky technique to make all of his coins look PL/DMPL. This is probably being done using a combination of lighting and the right surfaces. Look at the odd reflection of the coin around the edges - as though it's being photographed on top of a shiny surface. It looks Photoshopped and extremely unnatural.

One of my guesses is that this is accomplished by using a semi-opaque glass or plastic tumbler, placing the coin at the bottom of the glass, then placing a filtered or diffuse light source at an angle (perpendicular) to create maximum contrast and minimum reflectivity, e.g. directly above or below the coin. A plastic Coinsafe-type tube might also work.
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 Posted 07/14/2017  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Adam. I have seen this sellers pics and I said to myself run away. They are doctored to look pl. I bought 3 coins this week that looked pl. only 1 panned out the other 2 are being returned.
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 Posted 07/24/2017  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance that they surface of the coin has suffered from some type of slow chemical reaction (PVC)? I'm thinking that the coin may have been in a holder for several years.

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