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Mexico 8 Reales Zs 1834 Om Medal Alignment?

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 Posted 05/11/2008  11:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LlacerSBD to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello
Watching the auction of Heritage Auctions the coins of 8 Reales, I have seen the following piece, that I dont understant anything.

- It is a REPUBLICA MEXICANA, 8 REALES Zacatecas mint 1834 O.M.
- Or writed easly, 8R Zs 1834 OM
- It is encapsulated by NGC
- The Heritage Auction number is 52334
- And the link is: http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...Lot_No=52334

Well, I'm watching the image often,and seems that the coin has a medal alignment.

But, the standard for Mexican coins is a coin alignment except for big errors.
But, if this is a big error, why Heritage auctions not say anything?
Or, maybe it is only a mistake of images.

So, I'm not understand

Regards Joan
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 Posted 05/11/2008  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hola, Joan!

The photos definitely show a medal alignment of obverse and reverse. I don't know whether it would be considered a significant error. I'm not familiar with Mexico coinage, but my Argentina coin collection includes silver coins with both medal and coin alignment.

Hopefully Sap or Swamperbob will share their expertise on this topic.

This looks like a very nice coin. Are you thinking of placing a bid? Do you have an idea on an appropriate value for this coin?
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 Posted 05/13/2008  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Joan There is no error involved here.

In 1834 the Zacatecas mint used a medal die alignment on all coins. The coin die alignment was not introduced at this mint until 1842. During that year both types were made. Each of the branch mints converted in different years. Several switched back and forth one or more times.

There are of course errors in die alignment made throughout the Cap and Ray series but they are not so rare that there is much interest in them as a group.
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 Posted 05/14/2008  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LlacerSBD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bob
Really it's a surprise a medal alignment on a Latin area! Of course it's not normal, maybe the boss of Zacatecas mint is from English area.
Tomorrow, in the library of my numismatic association, I will look for in the Pradeau some information.
Unfortunately, I do not have RESPLANDORES of M. Dunigan, from Barcelona is a little difficult, but I am trying to have it.
Thanks again for clarify my doubts over Magic Mexican Coins
Joan
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LlacerSBD - Actually most Mexican mints used a coin alignment before 1845. There were 10 mints operating in 1845 and only three used the coin axis exclusively (EoMo from 1828, Guadaloupe Y Calvo from 1844 and Hermosillo from 1835). They are all scarce mints and most of the coin axis coins are rare to very rare.

The 8 other mints including all the high volume mints started as Medal Axis ONLY. The dates of conversion to coin axis are:

Chihuahua 1840
Durango 1842
Guadalajara 1833
Guanajuato 1843
Mexico City 1827
San Luis Potosi 1849
Zacatecas 1842

The rest of the Mexican mints opened after 1845:

Alamos opened 1864 - all coin axis
Culican " 1846 - all coin axis
Oaxaca " 1858 - all coin axis

Therefore nearly all production duting the 1820s and 1830s (except for Mexico City itself) was medal axis.

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