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I know there are varying definitions of what is considered a "full head" in the slq world. Would you consider this a full head on this 1930 P? Near full head? Or neither?  Edited by johnny54321 05/16/2008 4:58 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I know absolutely nothing about these but I would guess that it would be at least a near full head?
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I have a number of the Standing Libs in FH and I would say this one is full head.The sharpness can vary but all the details look to be there.
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Great! thanks! this is my first fh slq then. :-)
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According to the PCGS grading guide, FH status for type II SLQs requires three sprigs (leaves) and the ear hole to be visible, plus the hairline edge from the forehead down the side of the head and all the way to the back of the neck must be complete.
Based on your photo I'd guess it is a "just miss" FH. The sprigs are there but I don't see an ear hole and there is a slight gap in the hairline, right about where the ear hole should be. It's close, and maybe a grading service would think it's close enough.
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interesting info. I guess this one can go either way, depending on guidelines. I purchased it as a "near full head", but was unsure since it looked pretty close to me. The price was right, but I can always send it back if something is amiss. I will be placing it in an album with my type set and probably won't send it in to be graded. It was also listed as an AU/BU, and I personally can't tell the difference based on the pictures, though there does seem to be a small line of flatness on liberty's right leg, so I'll go with AU. I paid a lot more than I did for the other SLQ that turned out to be a dud, but I paid a lot less than a full BU FH SLQ would cost.  
Edited by johnny54321 05/17/2008 02:56 am
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It certainly could go either way depending on the Grading company & the grader.Jaobler is correct, The ear hole could be an issue.
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 We can say its a full head till were blue in the face but it really up to the TPG grader's!  It a nice coin #1 US quarter style ever made in my mind.
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full head is usually reserved for near gem and gem grades MS63 or better...yours looks to be MS61 or 62 at best...still it's beautiful acquisition...ENJOY!
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received the coin today. VERY happy with it! It has cartwheel luster and beautiful obverse toning with orange, brown and black hues! It doesn't show well in the picture, but it looks much better in real life. As for full head designation, the gap in the hairline that was observed in the picture does not seem to be there in real life. It looks like a full hairline to me under magnification. The only thing missing is the ear hole. I do believe the coin is a very high AU, as I think the slight flatness obxerved on libery's shin and a bit of rub on the breast is actual wear. Could be wrong though. Overall, this coin exceeds my expectations, which is a nice relief after several other ebay disappointments. This coin was well worth the money I paid IMO. :-)
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Like I said before Johnny, I have an 1930 SLQ graded AU53FH by NGC. I have actually seen a PCGS XF40FH! For that head to survive all that circulation is amazing. If you go to https://www.pcgs.com and click on "price guide" then go to Standing Liberty quarters, scroll down to the 1918/7-S and there is a price of $14,000 for an XF40FH. There is one out there otherwise there would be no price for it. I have noticed that at PCGS.
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thanks vermont! Wow, XF40FH? I knew they would designate that in AU, but I never thought an XF-40 would make FH. But they do have it as a price in PCGS. I personally wouldn't prefer a coin with that kind of uneven wear, but I imagine it is an extremely low POP coin, and probably just one like you said. Just thinking about it, that coin is worth more than my entire collection. wow!
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One disturbing word of caution. Notice the lower tw right compartments, the center compartment, and the second compartment from the left in the top row.  This is an image from the chinese counterfeiting factory. All four of those compartments are filled with Unc type II SLQ. (can't see dates) As far as I know, no one has identified any of the chinese fake SLQ yet
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WoW conder101 I know the only 12 or so STL are real I found or got most in the 60's
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