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Just In: 1858 20c Blundered I In Gratia Now Recognized By PCGS

 
 
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 Posted 01/24/2018  9:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This variety only showed up in the population report in the last 1-2 days, after I sent two of these into PCGS.

Here is the population report of the 1858 20c Blundered I in GRATIA. The population currently stands at 6.

https://www.PCGS.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=4356

And here are my two examples:

AU50:
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/30310099

XF45:
https://www.PCGS.com/cert/21927089

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01/24/2018 9:50 pm
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 Posted 01/25/2018  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Muskokarocks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cant beleive its not butter. I mean cleaned.
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 Posted 01/25/2018  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cleaned? Come on!
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 Posted 01/25/2018  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I'd say the Ef45 looks closer to a vf35, but I personally wouldn't say it looks cleaned. As for The Au-50 I actually think PCGS was pretty on the money with her.
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 Posted 01/25/2018  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The other AU50 is in my collection. And yes, I think it is optimistically graded.

https://www.PCGS.com/cert/33391928

Gene
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 Posted 01/25/2018  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin Gene...

This variety (Blundered I in GRATIA) is much harder to find in EF+ grades than people realize...

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 Posted 01/25/2018  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ditto. Nice coin 1960NYGiants.
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 Posted 01/26/2018  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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.The other AU50 is in my collection. And yes, I think it is optimistically graded.


Yea, I find PCGS' "definition" of AU is usually quite... Loose? I find most of the coins PCGS grades AU-58 seem to fall anywhere within the Au50 to MS60 range usually lower looking than AU58 and most PCGS AU50s I have seen seem to more resemble ICCS EF-40s.

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 Posted 01/28/2018  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is true...I routinely have ICCS EF40s jump up to PCGS AU50 or PCGS AU53...although these days ICCS is starting to slip...

But there are about 20% ICCS EF40s that are cleaned and scratched that would be rejected by PCGS completely...

I think in 10 years...ICCS will not be around...and PCGS will likely step in and take over the Canadian market, when they open an office in Canada and offer competitive prices



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 Posted 01/28/2018  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Eh can't entirely disagree with You C-V. Both fine examples of why collectors should try and learn to grade a bit on their own. Also can't deny its a nice advantage when PCGS will certify certain Canadian coin variety's that ICCS won't (at least from what I have heard).

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