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Am I seeing this correctly? Wikispaces going away as of this July  
 

 
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 Posted 02/12/2018  08:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found an alarming message on wikispaces this morning while I was vamming.



Did I just miss this? Has this been discussed? If so what will happen to Vamworld?

I'm hoping either someone tells me this is a joke or that Vamworld has plans to move it's content if wikispaces is truly going away. Any info is appreciated....
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 Posted 02/12/2018  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's news as of this morning and not a joke. This message by Messydesk from the VAMworld message board "Stay tuned for a VAMWORLD migration strategy."
Should prove to be interesting at the very least.
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 Posted 02/12/2018  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at Wikispace's blog, the entire service is shutting down for technical reasons -- too expensive to maintain/upgrade. Everyone has a few months to get their content migrated to another service (and Wikispaces will help) but it's up to the users to figure out what to do with their space and make the transition, if they're going to at all.
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 Posted 02/12/2018  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope Vamworld gets transferred somewhere without any issues. I love Sotheby’s site and live there a lot...
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The software that runs Wikipedia is open source and can be downloaded freely. It's pretty easy to set up, I've done it. However migration can be tricky and who knows if wikispaces will make their DB available. There have been similar situations, usually free forum sites though, that hold your DB for ransom when they shut down.
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 Posted 02/12/2018  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As you know Bobby, it's not the software, it's the scale. Any fool can hand code a web page... coding 100s or 1000s of web pages and serving them to 1000s or more simultaneous users that is difficult.

An analogy:

If I want to go to the coin show this Saturday, I hop in the car and drive. If a couple of us want to go, we meet in the side lot of Walmart, you park your cars and hop in mine and I drive to the show. Not THAT much more complex for 3 or 4 vs. 1.

If I want to take the whole club to the ANA show in Irving, now we need a bus. Place to meet and park more than 2 or 3 cars. Maybe hotel rooms and food. How often does the bus stop for bathroom breaks.

As you scale up, the logistics get much more complex... beyond linear.
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As you know Bobby, it's not the software, it's the scale. Any fool can hand code a web page... coding 100s or 1000s of web pages and serving them to 1000s or more simultaneous users that is difficult.


It absolutely is the software. Wikis are database driven. All of the same type pages are the same code just like here. There is one single page of code for every single solitary topic here (over a 1/4 million).... topic.asp. There is one single page of code for every single member's profile page... pop_profile.asp.

If you get the same software for the new site and someone very familiar with migrating databases it can possibly be done in less than an hour. (Depends on the size of the DB) Got nothing to do with scale other than the time you wait while migrating the DB.

I know I could move this site somewhere else, with the help of my DB guy in likely less than 2 hours and it would only take that long because the DB is almost 10GB.
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