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 Posted 04/15/2018  1:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numismatist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

This one appears to be brass. It measures 28.3mm and weighs 4.91 grams. Date appears t be 1798. Normal 2 reales diameter is 26mm and weight new is 6.77 grams. Notice on the reverse there is no denomination or mintmark and the assayer is MF. You have to wonder how anything this far out of tolerance could ever had circulated which it obviously did.
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 Posted 04/15/2018  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You have to wonder how anything this far out of tolerance could ever had circulated which it obviously did.

Well, of course it was probably originally silvered, or maybe even only tinned. The Spanish colonies of the period were filled with people whose monetary sophistication was such that they could've been quite easily swindled with the passing of the likes of this, especially given the modest denomination at which it was probably being valued.

Colligo ergo sum
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Nice find, this one is Kleeberg 98A-M6. See here: https://www.sixbid.com/browse.html?...&lot=3497971

I personally collect these pieces, very interesting stuff :)
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Many thanks. Interesting reference.
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Which Kleeberg book has this kind of info?
Thanks in advance
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It's available for free at the Newman Numismatic Portal: https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/513009?page=196

That's the middle of the section covering these, page back for historical info and forward for more descriptions and plates of the various coins.
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Many thanks again!
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