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Help! Verify 1893-S Morgan Silver Dollar Need to know if this is authentic

 
 
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 Posted 08/09/2018  05:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add clyr06 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am looking at purchasing this coin online. It is stated to be an 1893-S Morgan silver dollar. I have done research on looking for certain marks and placement of things but I am by no means an expert. I would appreciate your help so I don't make a bad decision on something that isn't authentic. I will attach the photos that were provided to me.


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 Posted 08/09/2018  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. No pro so I can't say it is real or not. Give it a bit and a pro will chime in. Mean time look here for valuehttp://www.coinprices.org/cgi/coinp...proof=&plus=
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 Posted 08/09/2018  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clyr06 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much I appreciate it... thankful for a place to come to ask questions and get advice.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from those pictures.
Too small and not clear enough to say for sure.
How much do they want for it?
That might be an indicator.

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 Posted 08/09/2018  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clyr06 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/132736456606
This is the post online if that helps just want to make a smart decision
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 Posted 08/09/2018  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the coin the date is in the correct position with the raised 3 and mint mark appears correct with a tilted right S, but to be sure the coin is genuine the die markers in T and R would need to be checked. The seller offers no refunds, so it could be a hassle getting a refund if needed. On the Morgan key dates you are always better off buying the online coin in a NGC or PCGS holder because there are so many fakes. From information available the coin appears genuine, but I would pass on the coin.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't buy this one if I were you. Pics too small, and seller doesn't accept returns.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also the area under the chin is showing signs of being cleaned, my guess is the coin has been cleaned.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clyr06 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seller is going to get better photos that I will share once I have received. With the coin in this condition and if it has been cleaned what would a fair price be to pay for this?
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 Posted 08/09/2018  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a chance that the coin is genuine but are you willing to take that risk with just having limited recourse if it's not?

As mentioned previously, it looks to have been cleaned. The swirl marks in the fields are clues.

Any seller wanting to get "top dollar" for a rare coin such as this would have the coin 3rd party graded to ease potential buyer's concerns over authenticity and condition. I think he knows it has problems and is just trying to unload it.

Too many questions about the coin and not enough answers. The "no returns" policy would kill the deal for me.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would never buy any coin, no matter how tempting, from a seller who didn't offer returns.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clyr06 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He uploaded better pictures on the eBay listing of the mint and the liberty in the crown. Let me know your thoughts. He said he has had the coin 15 years and it has just been kept in that plastic holder. He is unsure if the coin was cleaned before he purchased it.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Won't it get a details grade, if genuine, because of the hairlines on the obverse?
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 Posted 08/09/2018  11:22 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might have been broken out of a details holder.
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 Posted 08/09/2018  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would grade the coin VG details cleaned. New seller photos do not help. It will sell in the 2K range.

Go to Heritage, find one in VG condition with a straight grade . It is your best chance to get a 1893 s genuine coin at a fair price.
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