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 Posted 08/20/2018  5:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rpr623 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey All ,

New to post but been creeping in the guest shadows for quite a bit. I had to post this for some feedback. Obviously a normal incomplete clip but what caught my eye was the reeding on the edges in several places with the best examples being like those on a quarter. literally just got it in change at a 7-11 , clerk was going to toss it when he went to give me my change..he thought I was weird to want it ..lol




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 Posted 08/20/2018  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rpr623 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the welcome...
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 Posted 08/20/2018  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good pick up in the wild!

Unfortunately it isn't a mint error. It was done by pressing something on the coin, perhaps a socket hammered on to it to simulate a mint error. How I can tell is notice houw the rim in the smashed area is still there, that shows the coin was wholly minted. Done with a lot of pressure so most likely in a hydraulic press (10Klbs/force)
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 Posted 08/20/2018  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not saying I don't agree with you crazybo but it looks like the blakesley effect opposite the affected area and if it was a normal coin at one point where are the devices on that part of the coin? I don't really know.much about clipped planchet or incomplete ones at that but it seems like it has some of those characteristics. I legitimately would like to know if I'm just seeing things or if this can be explained?
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To CCF! It's Post Strike Damage (it happened after it left the U.S. Mint) unfortunately. Here's what a genuine Partial Indent error looks like. http://goccf.com/t/292084 http://www.error-ref.com/indent-partial/
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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 08/20/2018  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right, just someone with too much time on his hands.



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 Posted 08/20/2018  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Not an error, just damage. Maybe a vice job or a hydraulic press like mentioned before.

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 Posted 08/20/2018  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like I said, I don't know much about this type of error and therefore am not disagreeing. I just find it odd that there seems to be evidence of the blakesley effect exactly opposite the affected area. You can clearly see weakening of the rim on the opposite side. Is that just coincidental then?
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 Posted 08/20/2018  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rpr623 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks guys ,
I figured it was a 50/50, that's why I posted here. I did forget the question mark on the title ...Sorry. Took it to a shop close to me I do biz with and he was on the fence after going under his scopes. I'm putting this with my little collection of "nice try, Bubba" coins. they're good for conversation pieces.
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 Posted 08/20/2018  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Waynoah....may have been held in a vise or slide clamp of the press.
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 Posted 08/20/2018  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Waynoah83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After doing some research and checking out EV's links this actually looks like a partial indent and not incomplete clip. In a partial indent, the coin doesn't eject and a blank planchette is then stamped onto the face of the coin. You can see in the examples on error coins that the rim and devices we're in fact there from the initial strike and then flattened when pressed with the edge of the blank planchette. Again, I'm not saying this isn't homemade, I'm just saying when looking at it through the perspective of that type of error and not clip it makes a lot sense. The example also shows weakness on the opposite rim. The only difference between the two examples is the one on error ref was partially ejected where as this one I think was fully stuck in. Anyways, I'm just saying I think it's a rational possibility. If I'm totally wrong then someone please explain to me why. this isn't sarcasm but I honestly am always trying to learn something new and like to learn anything and everything about coin errors.
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 Posted 08/21/2018  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On indents, at least one side shows on the secondary coin that transferred. On the the first coin the opposite side shows a strike.








The devices on the edge of the coin raises a huge red flag to me. Also the lack of a full strike on either side.
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 Posted 08/21/2018  12:29 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a genuine Partial Indent error on a 1981 Canadian Cent.




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More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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