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2001 P Kentucky Quarter With Possible Retained Cud? Found In Pocket Change

 
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 Posted 10/31/2018  11:59 pm Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I found this in my change, that I received from cashing in my CoinStar voucher. I think it might be a Retained Cud, but I am not completely sure. There's also a Die Crack running into the top roof of the building as well. My USB microscope broke and I am waiting for my new USB microscope to come in the mail. (Using my phone camera temporally, until my brand new scope arrives.) What do you guys think of it?




More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 11/01/2018  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So far it just looks like a rim to rim (short) die crack. I can't see a displacement of the die crack area yet.
Here is one that turned into a cud. (not sure if yours is the same die or not?) Could be.
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 Posted 11/01/2018  12:34 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was a Rim To Rim Die Crack as well Coop. I think mine is from a different die. Once I get my new USB microscope, I'll update this post with new better quality pictures of the Die Crack.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 11/01/2018  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some cuds spread as the die is continued to be used. this one matches the upper board on the fence, but extends below it. Cuds-on-coins any help?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 11/01/2018  12:48 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked on cuds-on-coins.com and I couldn't find any dies pairs that match my Die Crack.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 11/01/2018  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still thinking this one may have spread out (On the OP's coin) and continued to expand. If so they might want a pre/cud picture? But you would need a good marker match to prove it was from the same die.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 11/01/2018  12:54 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting Coop! I'll have to investigate my coin more later on.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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Thank you jbuck and Bate! It was my lucky day yesterday.p
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 11/01/2018  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dorado to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find!
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 Posted 11/01/2018  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find! I think it is a rim to rim die crack.
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 Posted 11/01/2018  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Dorado and Jim! The only way to know for sure is for me to put it under my new USB microscope, which is still in shipment right now.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 11/03/2018  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is indeed a Retained Cud, since there's slight and noticeable displacement of the broken piece of the die. Here's a better picture of the area in question. What do you think of it?



More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
Edited by Errers and Varietys
11/03/2018 8:22 pm
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 Posted 11/03/2018  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better pics for sure! You can see it where it starts on top of the rim. There is a small cud on top of the rim. After seeing the new pics I believe it is a retained cud. Great eye to see that one David!
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Thank you Jim! I received my new USB microscope from Walmart online. I was also having software issues, do to the very recent Google Chrome update, that messed up the compatibility of my USB microscope on my default camera app on the Chromebook. (They updated the camera app, and it messed the compatibility of my USB microscope up, so I bought a brand new Windows 10 laptop for 379.00 at Walmart. It's has been problem free so far.)

I can see why this one get missed. It's pretty small to the naked eye actually. Luckily, I saw the Die Crack, and after I put it under my 10x loupe, it turned out to be a Retained Cud.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
Edited by Errers and Varietys
11/03/2018 9:38 pm
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