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So, How Bad is This 1875 P Seated Liberty Half Dol.?

 
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 Posted 01/11/2019  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After seeing all those scratches, I figured what the hey... This is Bon "Hasn't Scratched Yet" Ami rubbed on with my fingers. Notice that the "skateboard" scratches are gone. The picture here pretty much shows what I see in person, except that the fainter lettering is less faint in person, because I can change the viewing angle.

But give this final version a rating. Next I'll post a coin I got that was polished in what I think is a much worse way. (And several of the polished ones I got acquired a yellowish cast.)


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 Posted 01/11/2019  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This makes me sick. The coin looked really nice in the pictures at the start of the thread, with nice original attractive surfaces, and now it's a hideous polished blob.
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 Posted 01/11/2019  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thisistheshow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pauldog Did you use something to clean this? Like a cloth, tool, etc or just soak it?
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 Posted 01/11/2019  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/12/2019  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I already said how I did it right above posting the latest photos. I figured I had nothing to lose with all those scratches showing up in the photos after the first cleaning.

If you don't like this, you should see the ugly polished ones I got from the same coin dealer. My theory is that they were tossed around in a rock tumbler like stones. I can't get a good picture of them - their color in photos is dullish gray, even though in person they're super-shiny and smooth, yet worn from use before the polishing. Some of them have acquired a bit of a yellowish tinge.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"now it's a hideous polished blob"

Take another look at the first photo of the eagle's wings.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  01:05 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looked nice in the original photos (an original coin). Now it looks like a harshly cleaned coin.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jstav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have perhaps tried a light dip in E-Z-Est (like one second, then immediate rinse in distilled, then some baking soda/water mixture or other alkaline solution). I look at it more from the financial aspect. You had a ~$40 dollar coin, and now you have one worth melt ~$6. I have a feeling though that you may be trolling just a little ;)
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 Posted 01/12/2019  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you may have won a victory but lost the war.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not trolling, I'm new to all this and learning by doing and making mistakes. Nobody pointed out (I read it elsewhere later) that silver is soft and scratches easily, and that the black stuff is tarnish of the alloy metals, since silver itself, like gold, doesn't corrode. (I had assumed it was just dirt there and that it would come off easily with acetone. I was wrong.) I don't personally know anyone who collects coins, and only got into this a little bit recently by finding that my "junk silver" coins were not all junk.

I think it's still worth more than melt value because of scarcity. And if I don't sell it, it's only a paper loss. And there are probably ways to make it re-tarnish faster, if I wanted to fool around more, which I probably don't.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm having a hard time following the twists and turns of this thread.

Trying to understand what has happened to this coin is giving me a headache. And I don't understand how 'trolling' was entered in to part of the dialog.

Moving along with a suggestion that admins just lock it.
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 Posted 01/12/2019  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I look at it more from the financial aspect. You had a ~$40 dollar coin, and now you have one worth melt ~$6


Probably a fair assumption - but we all have made mistakes while learning how to handle and work with coins, and frankly, a $40 coin isn't a bad idea to practice, make mistakes, and learn from - certainly much better than a $400 or a $4000 coin...


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I figured I had nothing to lose with all those scratches showing up in the photos after the first cleaning.


This is an important statement, and I think most of you are overlooking this. The owner knows the first cleaning brought out the scratches and acknowledges the coin has gone beyond the point of no return - so why not get the best bang for the buck, and learn more...

Most importantly, this lesson is documented by being here. So in the future, if a new collector suggests cleaning a coin, you can point them to this thread, as an example.
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 Posted 01/13/2019  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pauldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you... now I can start to enjoy this.

The coin started as a G4-G6, so I don't think it was worth as high as $40, and I don't think it's only worth $6 now. I'll unbury it from the moist Irish peat in a few decades, and use it to pay for all of your grandchildren's college educations. ;)

I'm more concerned about this coin (not the first one, but the one with the same year/mint that I posted later), which is going through accusations of counterfeitedness, partly by association, and partly by hard-to-read-well photography:
http://goccf.com/t/337460

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 Posted 01/13/2019  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeF to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm more concerned about this coin (not the first one, but the one with the same year/mint that I posted later), which is going through accusations of counterfeitedness, partly by association, and partly by hard-to-read-well photography:


This part of the problem. A communication problem. Try to only talk about the coin we are discussing in this thread and don't veer off topic. When you start mentioning other coins in other threads it just confuses everyone.
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 Posted 01/13/2019  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm half expecting an update post with the coin's surfaces sanded flat, at the rate this is going
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