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So, How Bad Is This 1875 P Seated Liberty Half Dol.?

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I'm pretty sure I got this among a bunch of supposedly "junk silver" coins from a dealer. I was just trying to buy silver, and only years later decided to take a close look at the individual coins. A bunch of them are very worn or very cleaned and somewhat worn, and are probably worth roughly their bullion value. But quite a few others are dirty (or not so dirty) and are 19th century, and in pretty good shape. The one pictured here is probably in the worst shape of the most valuable ones I found.
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to CCF. Going to need a pic of the reverse also. Here is a good source on grading https://www.PCGS.com/Photograde/
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Thanks, John. I was having trouble posting both pictures in the same frame, so I posted the reverse in a reply.

From the little I know about grading so far, it's better than "Good" (which seems to me to mean "pretty worn out, but you can tell what it is and see the date"), and worse than "Very Fine." But is it VG or F?

It's pretty cool to have something this old lying around the house. It's either my oldest coin, or very close to it. And it's my only seated liberty coin. I have a bunch of Barbers, but ony one Seated.
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One more thing...

Would it hurt it to do the kind of cleaning that just removes dirt? I've read about using olive oil or something else relatively mild like that.

My first inclination is to do nothing.
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My first inclination is to do nothing.


That is a very good first inclination; however, a bath in pure acetone (no rubbing) might be an ok thing to try. Since you have so many slicks, you could practice on a couple of them to get the hang of it before potentially ruining a coin with value above melt.
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It is certainly quite grotty.

Perhaps a dip may help. No big risk to value if you do. Proceed in small time steps, rinsing after each step. Reasoned circumspection is the name of the game.
Try acetone first, but I don't think it will do much good.

I wouldn't use olive oil, because that stuff is mildly acidic, and will darken it further over time. Olive oil best used with ancient bronze coins to soften encrustations, but even in this case, ancient bronze coins will darken over time.
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Speaking of grotty, here's my Barber half dollar - in better shape, but more dirt.

I like that look. As stated above, acetone soak with absolutely no rubbing is okay, but beyond that any attempt to change the appearance would be easily detected by other collectors and hurt both the appearance and value of your coin.
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Pauldog,
You are right about good meaning pretty worn out. The grading scale is 0-70,the lower the number the more worn it is.
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A pure acetone bath for the Seated half dollar would be the way to go.
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G details (environmental damage).
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I'm fairly certain that is ED on the eagle on the reverse. But it's hard to determine the difference between gunk and ED from photos. The person with the coin inhand is the best judge. So Take the coin and hold it under a light source at an angle. Move it around until light reflects off of the coin in your field of vision. If you see depressions, like something has eaten into the coins surface, then it's ED. If those areas are raised then it's most likely gunk buildup.
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Textbook G-6. And yes acetone soak should get the dirt off.
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