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1998 P Dime Multi Class DD? With MD?

 
 
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 Posted 02/10/2019  3:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eyez to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My eyeballs are hurting on this one need some fresh eyes,
Found last night in change I need to buy a better microscope not digging mine anymore, Anyway noticed theres some class 2 DD maybe and maybe some class 6 not sure if there can be multiple but I also notice some MD but starring at something so long plays tricks when still a big novice. also noticed a flower lily or star on reverse.Sorry in advance for so many pics.










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 Posted 02/10/2019  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am seeing MD and DDD. And yes,you can have more than one class of hub doubling on the same coin.
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No, not a Doubled Die. You have Die Deterioration Doubling and Machine Doubling combined. Both are common and have no value. http://www.error-ref.com/die-deteri...on-doubling/ http://www.error-ref.com/machine-doubling/
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 02/10/2019  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
didnt think there was any seperation with DDD? and I thought with MD it resizes image? because on the s in trust you can see full s rounded and rotatedish and I thought that was more a definition of class2 DD? still learning so hence asking maybe seemless questions. ?maybe I'm just getting wrong angles
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 Posted 02/10/2019  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with my eyes this is what I see like I say must be my crappy pictures lol didnt mean to sound defensive, I enjoy learning from you guys. And I am truly sorry if I offended either of you.

thanx again.
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Machine Doubling can be in one or more directions. Die deterioration is always towards the closest rim direction. The first clue on this one was the extreme die flow on the fields. Note on the top of the first 'T' on Trust? See the angled lines on that area? Those are called striation lines. These happen when metal rubs across metal. Another clue for Machine Doubling. They don't always show, but the cause and affect are always the same. Metal sliding on metal. Other examples:





As mentioned not a doubled die, but when you see these lines, it is a strong clue for Machine Doubling from metal sliding over the planchet after it became a coin.
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 Posted 02/10/2019  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thx coop, another question how do you tell the difference between striation lines and grain line from the planchet?
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Striation lines are on the device edges. Flow lines are on the fields of the coin. The fields are the outside edge of the die. So as the dies wear, you can see the slight amount to die wear, where as the fields have the job of moving the metal around the most. Thus developing die flow lines as each coin is shaped the same, the start flat and soon will have long lines. Some times they polish them out and this reduces the fields and affect the shallow devices:
Die flow lines:








Die flow lines that developed after the die was polished. (note the reduction of the size of the devices)




Die flow lines on devices:




Die flow lines on die deterioration:

Here is a 10% of what I have on my image host.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 02/10/2019  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you coop all saved to folder ^^
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