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1982 LMC Small Zinc DDR FS-1801 - How Many Are There?

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 Posted 10/01/2019  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop,

I didn't know it (dies) broke down like that.

I ASSumed it was just 1 master hub that made all of the working dies.

Thanks

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 Posted 10/01/2019  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not that the dies broke down, but that they noticed soon the reverse was a doubled die. The 1958-D DDO only has three known. The 1955 DDO made it till early MDS die state before it was pulled. Probably less than 100 1969-S DDO's out there. So when they do catch it, the die is pulled early. (Mint workers don't bother to sort through the coins to find the ones that passed by already. They probably figured: "No one else will notice them." But We do!
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 07/11/2020  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ole Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well,to answer your question I believe I have 4x FS-1801's here is one of them


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 Posted 07/11/2020  04:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF Ole Man. You should start your own thread,but I do not think your coin is a DDR at all. Would need better photos posted in your own thread to be sure.
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 Posted 07/11/2020  04:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ole Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I Apologize for that and yea I need a better camera
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 Posted 10/19/2020  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Etako808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@levelsofmadnes. I know it's been a minute since you've posted about 1982 DDO, and I wanted to ask what ever came of your coin, did it go to an auction? Just curious, I'm the guy that found one as well. Hope all is well and hope to hear back from you,
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 Posted 10/19/2020  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hello Etako808

sent it to Great Collections for a min bid of $3000.

it did not sell and now sits in a safe.

Ian from Great Collects sent me an email 6 months after the auction:
Do you still have your 1982 DDR that you consigned to us 6 months ago?

If so, I'd love another chance at auctioning it for you. Please let me know.

I have a few serious collectors looking for it at the moment.

Sincerely,

- Ian


SO, there are buyers looking for that variety.
Congrats once again on your SUPERB find
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 Posted 10/19/2020  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://www.numismaticnews.net/arti..._doubled_die

Article is from 2008 of course, but the math is there. Let's say like the 1995 DD, the die life was 600,000 strikes, and attrition rate of 10% being lost to damage per year since being minted. in 2008 the writers conclusion is that preliminary estimates of possible surviving pieces of this particular doubled die are likely between 100 and 500 pieces, of which fewer than 20 percent are likely to currently be uncirculated in grade.

I think the math is a little off since If I scale it for an attrition rate, it's more like about 40K surviving up to this year in some level of circulated to mint state.
but it could be right also with a few hundred examples tops surviving still to find. it's a hard guess really, not many been graded or sold.

Heck, I've never know to look for it even until this post..


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 Posted 10/20/2020  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On one of the images I have for this year of the statue, it shows two heads:

This is Ziggy's coin (Original finder) but no one mentions the doubled head?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/20/2020  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to state the obvious on this coin and the other one found recently. Not knocking anyone. With such a low population there is no price guide on this coin. You have to find two bidders that want to battle it out for this coin or start with an incredibly high bid price. I have two top pop coins with similar rarity. One with a 3k book value and feel it would be very hard to get over $1000 at auction but who knows.


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