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a small Cud

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Not sure on this one. Leaning towards die dent.
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Can you get a better picture on that one? Can you take a picture of the side, so we can see if it's raised above the surface or not?
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I'm thinking this is an area with grease near the rim area. The color is usually clear making those who think it is raised metal. Best way to test this:
1. Take another image without glare on that area. Rotate the coin 90 degrees, and retake another image. Edit and rotate it back to horizontal.
2. Use a tooth pick on that area with just a few marks through the grease area. Then take another image. I can use these for my educational files. But the is what I feel it is.

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It's a good excuse to practice photography. These were shot with diffused lighting that stayed the same as I rotated the coin in steps of 90 degrees. The blob does not move when poked, and the coin is slightly thicker in that area. Plus looks to be a die crack through Tom's nose.


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Looks like a small Cud to me. Nice find! Also, thank you for the additional pictures!
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I'm thinking potential die attrition or Cud. Thanks, Doug.
http://www.error-ref.com/die-attrition-error/
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The area looks rough, like something was mixed and out there? On a die attrition, it looks smooth:
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But it maybe die attrition.

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Congratulations, that would be a new listing. The only

other '95 listed is this monster,


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What is neat on Cuds that big is that the opposite sides don't strike up like you would expect.
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Grading mega Cuds must be hard. A lot less to work with.
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Yes, in hand that area of my nickel does look rough, but the crescent also resembles that on the illustrated 1991 die attrition error quarter. Are die attrition errors only on obverses?
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Depending on what the setup is. Used to be the Obverse dies were the Hammer and the Reverse used to be the Anvil dies. But this had changed a while back. So they can be different. Just like the MAD coins. They show the dies reversed:
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The dies are different setups:
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I may have these even labeled backwards. But you can see the die setups are different from the hammer and anvil dies.

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Thanks for those details. If I'm undertsanding correctly, the swap of hammer dies after 1992 means after that year die attrition can appear only on the reverse. Consequently, since my nickel is dated 1995 what's visible on the obverse can't be die attrition.
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If I'm undertsanding correctly, the swap of hammer dies after 1992 means after that year die attrition can appear only on the reverse. Consequently, since my nickel is dated 1995 what's visible on the obverse can't be die attrition.

Might hold that thought while I look it up again. Thanks, Doug.

Adding: food for thought. Transition or trials began in 1992. This setup gradually became more common until it was the predominant setup in 2002. Changeover was complete (at least for business strikes) by 2005.

http://goccf.com/t/94501&SearchTerms=anvil,die
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Beginning in 1992 (at the Denver branch), the Mint started experimenting with using the reverse die as the hammer die. This setup gradually became more common until it was the predominant setup in 2002. Changeover was complete (at least for business strikes) by 2005. So all coins, except proofs, are struck with an "inverted" die setup.

Also note Conder101 mentions in a different topic the conversion to the horizontal press during this time frame. Thanks, Doug.

http://goccf.com/t/76840&SearchTerm...rtical,press

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Then since 2002 they have been changing their presses from vertical strike presses to horizontal Schuler presses.
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So looking for Attrition, struck through capped dies or MAD coins, we need to keep open minded that they could happen on either side.
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