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US Trade Dollar - Fake Or Not? Help Please!

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Hello, is this US Trade dollar 1872 fake?

The seller said he has received it from Asia and it is a silver coin with correct numbers, but he is not sure if it is fake or not.


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Definitely counterfeit.
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Since there was no 1872 US Trade dollar and neither design is the same the the actual Trade dollar, it is a fantasy.

If it really is silver, it would be a nice collectable worth its weight in silver.
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I believe there are only 6 coins of that pattern known. I'm sure that's not number 7
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Thank you very much!
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The seller said he has received it from Asia and it is a silver coin


I would be shocked if this were even true....
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 Posted 03/09/2019  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An absolute fake, looks nifty though
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Looks like a comical fake
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Actually, as fake patterns go, I think it's fairly decent.
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At noted, the coin is a counterfiet 1872 Trade dollar pattern. Below is a photo of an genuine example, so you can compare your coin.
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Not solid silver, merely thinly plated. This is a very commonly counterfeited coin.
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Definitely fake.
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The seller said he has received it from Asia and it is a silver coin with correct numbers, but he is not sure if it is fake or not.


Next time you visit this seller, carry a refrigerator magnet in your pocket. Silver's not attracted as such.
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Seems logical that one of these would have turned up in Asia after all this time.
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I didn't know such a pattern existed. (Not a U.S. specialist).

As such, I would have thought of it as some sort of almost valueless fantasy, and so would have been under the (wrong) impression, and would have bought it for a low price anyway.

Now that I know that it is a copy of a pattern, I would have jumped at it, but at the same low price, and would have been rather happy with the acquisition.
Why?
It is the only way I could hope obtain even a copy of a rare pattern.



I already have a rather extensive collection of 'black' coins for my own education purposes, in order to train myself in how to readily identify fake coins.
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in order to train myself in how to readily identify fake coins.
You can learn a lot about that just by looking at images. I do it every day!
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