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Help With A Raw 1897 Morgan, To Grade Or Not To Grade?

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 Posted 03/26/2019  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks severely overdipped in all of the photos posted here, I'm very surprised it has full cartwheel luster
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03/26/2019 9:06 pm
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 Posted 03/26/2019  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No but similar lol, we will see, if it comes back really crappy, I'll say who :)
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 Posted 03/26/2019  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not trying to bash you, just saying I've noticed GSC sell a good many Morgan's that people have posted on here that look similar to that one.
What's "good" to you? What grade are you hoping for?
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 Posted 03/27/2019  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm hoping for a good lesson LOL, to me using that PCGS photo grading (please help me out on that one, is it accurate to you guys?) Coin in hand, I was thinking 61 or 62.

When you hold it in hand it looks proof like, and rocking it back and forth on both sides you can see the cart wheel, well.

So I just don't know, this is a first for me, so it's not about the money.
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 Posted 03/27/2019  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually your coin looks nicer than 61 for sure, if you're going by hits alone. That's not what everyone is talking about though. And AU would simply be a question of whether or not wear is present.
To clarify, I've seen some AU-58 coins that look way way nicer than MS-62 graded examples.
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 Posted 03/29/2019  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I guess the suspense is going to last, they said they received it 3 days ago but don't show it as an order yet.
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 Posted 04/01/2019  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally got a prepped date 4/1

The dealer I got it from, said if it doesn't come back DMPL he will take it back LOL
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 Posted 04/01/2019  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He better be ready to take it back. Seems he can't understand the difference between DMPL and over polished/dipped
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 Posted 04/05/2019  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well.....Um, lesson learned LOL, but it did straight grade.

Now I have an idea what one looks like outside the slab and in hand vs what they will probably be grading it.

School is in recess! :)

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 Posted 04/05/2019  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, at least you learned something! Not a total loss but pretty close!
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I was almost 100% sure it was going to come back with a straight grade because of the cart wheel, just hoped it was going to be a tiny bit higher,

Somebody called it on the button, with the slight wear on the cotton balls.

According to there definition of AU 58, it almost has full luster.

Most said no luster on it, and I think that adds to the argument that it is VERY difficult to grade by pictures.

I really did learn a lot going back over all the comments, and thank all for the input, most appreciated ,
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 Posted 04/06/2019  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everyone had a comment, no feedback lol? After all I'm now a valed member lol.
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Well I mentioned I was very surprised when you said it had any amount of luster, because from all indications in the pictures posted the coin had none. Just goes to show how hard luster can be to capture depending on the lighting. Will you return the coin to the dealer for a refund since it didn't get DMPL?
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 Posted 04/06/2019  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very surprised it straight graded from the pictures to say the least. Although it looked to be a borderline coin, so 58 doesn't surprise me.
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No I'll keep it, may offer it as a freebie on an auction, but I want to see it in a PCGS slab first, lol
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