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1933 D Lincoln Wheat Cent - Looks DDO

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 Posted 04/09/2019  12:01 am Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Picked up this 1933-D and it really looks like a mild class 6 DDO with extra thickness and the usual bent letters in LIBERTY and pointy bits on the E in WE. Just wondering if there is any agreement with my visions of grandeur here.

1933-D Lincoln Wheat cent (cleaned) - showing class 6 DDO characteristics







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 Posted 04/09/2019  12:46 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say no. Just my opinion of course.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 04/09/2019  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ditto.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like your chances. I normally don't look at that many 33's but I like the look of the 9 in the date and the RU of Trust looks slightly but nicely distorted. The S of Trust has a blown highlight in the close up so I can't be sure there.
That E of We could be a bit deceptive because of the die state. It could be acting like the E of the 1924-S die 001. Very nice hook in later die states but very little distortion in its early die state.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like a little distended doubling may be going on. That's a tough one.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm seeing the same things as Stoneman. The tail of that 9 has some thickness, the E on WE and RU of TRUST appear to be class6, even accounting for the Die Deterioration.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  07:04 am  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say yes. IGWT and the 9 has extra thickness. Looks like there's more than just Die Deterioration.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  07:38 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's 50/50
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 Posted 04/09/2019  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the right leg on the R in TRUST normal for that year?
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 Posted 04/09/2019  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I lean toward no given the did deterioration.
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 Posted 04/09/2019  08:53 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the comments! Seems like there may be enough there to give it a go with a submission, which is in general my opinion although I have the advantage of having the coin in hand.

I find that the date and LIBERTY are fairly well comparable to the coin on Coppercoins although none of the die markers match:

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds

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 Posted 04/09/2019  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tropicalbats;

Could you share your lighting and photo capture method. Your first photo look absolutely PERFECT.

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 Posted 04/09/2019  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Panther,

First photo is shot with a Canon S95, zoomed in two clicks, on a red post it note backdrop. The lighting is from a 60W type A halogen open bulb (not frosted) from steeply above and behind the coin with about 12 inches between the bulb and the stage. The camera angle is almost, but not quite directly over the coin. I shoot one with the coin rotated slightly clockwise and one slightly counterclockwise and then pick which one shows best the bits on the coin that are most needed to see (some angles the doubling disappears, other angles it's obvious).
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 Posted 04/09/2019  3:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for sharing.

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 Posted 04/09/2019  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These was the only coins struck made in Denver this year.
6,200,000 total

What other two coins were struck this year.
(One run of coins from each mint that year)
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