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2007 James Madison Dollar Coin. Missing Both Clad Layer On Both Sides?

 
 
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 Posted 04/23/2019  1:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Finedime69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello today I went to cash my check at the bank and as always I asked if they had any dollar coins or half dollars because I collect them. I was handed this 2007 James Madison and it appears to me that it has an error. I'm fairly new to collecting but I think it's etheir improperly annealed or missing clad layers on both sides.it weighs 7.95. Would appreciate any opinions and input. Thank you for all your help and I apologize if my pictures aren't the beat

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 Posted 04/23/2019  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iontyre to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sacagawea and Presidential dollars are not clad like dimes, quarters and halves, they are a manganese allow with a yellowish almost gold color. This one looks normal to me.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Your coin looks like environmental damage or stripped,not a genuine missing layer.Here is a pic of a real one https://images.search.yahoo.com/sea...action=click
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 Posted 04/23/2019  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finedime69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll have to try and post some different pictures so you can see the colors better. And the weight is off at least a little. If I'm right they are supposed to weigh 8.1. This weighs 7.95. It's like grayish brown in color.. I'm waiting for my phone to charge enough to take pictures so bear with me. Thank you for your responses
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 Posted 04/23/2019  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
8.1 grams is normal +/- mint tolerances.
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It's like grayish brown in color.
Should be copper color looking.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Normal weight is 8.1 grams tolerance is +/- .3 grams so 7.8 to 8.4 grams is normal range. If it was missing a clad layer, and assuming the clad layer is roughly the same percentage of weight on the dollar as it is in the other clad coins, I would expect the weight of a dollar with one missing layer to be 6.67 grams. Two missing layers would be 5.24 grams.
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 Posted 04/23/2019  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks pretty normal to me.



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To CCF! It's showing Environmental Damage.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 04/25/2019  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More of a circulation issue. This happens to all that glitters is not gold coins.
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