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 Posted 05/12/2019  11:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jcaillier to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey all, I was going through my loose change and rolling it and came across a 2002 p Roosevelt dime with an Unmilled edge. I was hoping someone could help me with value. I will post pic in the morning, but just something for you all to chew on for the night. I think it's the first Unmilled edge I have ever seen in a dime.
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 Posted 05/12/2019  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could of been worn down from circulation wear and tear, but we need pictures.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/13/2019  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biedercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

And if you happen to have a scale that will give an accurate weight, that would be great. Is it the same diameter as a regular dime?
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This edge isn't worn, I do know enough about coin collecting to know,that one. This edge was never milled. Here are the pics. The coin even loos thicker than it should due to Unmilled edge.






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Just weighed a regular dime which weighs 2 g. And the Unmilled one weighs the same 2 g.
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Also, same diameter 17.91 and 17.91. Used a micrometer that I have.
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 Posted 05/13/2019  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PSD. Looks like an early stage dryer coin or spooned coin.
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I'm struggling to justify this if it's not underweight, and not oversized or undersized.

if it was struck without the collar or with a cent collar, it would be larger, if it were ground down, it would be underweight.

Something is fishy here, and I can't say what it is except your scale must be off or your measuring tool is off. the reeded edge is done at the same time as the head and tails, it's a one step process.
Only way something like this should/could occur at the mint is if it were struck in a cent collar instead of a dime, but it would be larger in diameter and thinner.
and if it was struck without the collar it would be much larger and smashed flat or even curled beyond the design.

this has to have been sanded off and your scale is wrong in my opinion, what you are showing isn't how it should look if it was done at the mint. Even as a dryer coin, the delineation of the copper core shouldn't be so even as the reeding gets smashed.it looks like the reeding was sanded off until smooth, maybe wet sanded even., something like that to get the straight line of copper and nickel.

All opinion though, can always send it for grading and see what they have to say about it.


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Sorry, but this isn't an error coin. This is all Post Strike Damage ( PSD). Worth face value unfortunately, since it's been damaged after it left the U.S. Mint.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1988 P LMC RDV-006, 1998 P LMC Wide AM, and 2000 P LMC Wide AM. http://goccf.com/t/327834 http://goccf.com/t/294303 http://goccf.com/t/312900
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/13/2019  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jcaillier to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, thought I would ask as I have never seen anything like it. No, scale isn't off, I will double check with micrometer. I think John1 may be right, early stagebdryer coin. Nothing else makes any sense.
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Ok, thought I would ask as I have never seen anything like it.
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